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Advice on painting & decals.
« on: 27 April 2013, 08:27:03 am »
 
Hi,
    Need some advice on painting & decals as i'm far happier with a spanner in hand.
 
After much searching i got a genuine belly pan(fitted) & genuine sports front mudguard (to fit).In good shape.
Unfortunately wrong colour.
Do i fit as is (see attatched pic)~ belly pan looks ok,silver fender may be a bit too much?
Or repaint myself~ potential for a disaster maybe?
Or pay someone £££ to do it.~ whats a fair price for a proper job you reckon?
 
If i do it myself do i need to wet & dry prior to painting?~ fender is brand new,seems a shame to wreck factory finish.
 
What's the best way of non destructively removing old wax/polish prior to painting or applying decals?
 
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Re: Advice on painting & decals.
« Reply #1 on: 27 April 2013, 09:04:15 am »
I, personally, think a respray is needed.  There is just too much silver in contrast to the blue.  If you're buying it to protect the underbelly more than for aesthetics then silver isn't unattractive but it does stand out as a bolt on to me.


I think you could go for blue or black.  Black would probably be cheaper as the paint may not be as rare.  But I'd stick with the blue like the rest of the bike.


If you go for black you could attempt a DIY finish, there are plenty of videos on Youtube but I don't know if sanding, basecoat, top coat, laquer is something for a DIY'er to get a good finish with (I'm rubbish at spraying).  If you decide to get someone to spray it for you in the future you could always blame it on someone else.  The good thing is that unlike a fuel tank it's easy to attach and detatch.  Shop around and you may get a cash deal.


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Re: Advice on painting & decals.
« Reply #2 on: 27 April 2013, 09:05:56 am »
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Re: Advice on painting & decals.
« Reply #3 on: 27 April 2013, 08:46:56 pm »
Thanks for the input Simon,
 
No black, it either gets painted DPBMC or i live with it.
                                     Followed the link ta ...I'm thinking a  shame vinyl wrap doesn't come in Yamaha colours, :\

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Re: Advice on painting & decals.
« Reply #4 on: 27 April 2013, 09:08:47 pm »
Just take it off and go around all the bodyshops you can find and ask them for a cash price.  I'm sure time isn't an issue and it's easier to remove than a fairing or a tank.
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Re: Advice on painting & decals.
« Reply #5 on: 27 April 2013, 09:18:14 pm »
I'd respray it myself. Set up a paint booth in your garage, get some cheap plastic dust sheets and tape them to ceiling/floor, and set up a 'spray booth'.
Lots and lots of fine layers is key, as well as plenty of time on prep, also remember the panels are away from each other so a slight change in colour (sun fading from your older panels) wont be as noticeable than say on your car if you were respraying a wing.
Worst case and you make a mess, let it dry properly and sand your mistakes away!!
Oh and yes i agree with simonm, the silver doesnt work with the rest of the bike.

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Re: Advice on painting & decals.
« Reply #6 on: 27 April 2013, 09:24:44 pm »
I'd respray it myself. Set up a paint booth in your garage, get some cheap plastic dust sheets and tape them to ceiling/floor, and set up a 'spray booth'.
Lots and lots of fine layers is key, as well as plenty of time on prep, also remember the panels are away from each other so a slight change in colour (sun fading from your older panels) wont be as noticeable than say on your car if you were respraying a wing.
Worst case and you make a mess, let it dry properly and sand your mistakes away!!
Oh and yes i agree with simonm, the silver doesnt work with the rest of the bike.


Does it need to be sanded first ? (I'm guessing sand blasting would destroy it  :lol )


You'd do prime, base coat, top coat then lacquer ?


Where would you get the paint from ? (Aerosol ?)


I'm curious now..
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Re: Advice on painting & decals.
« Reply #7 on: 27 April 2013, 09:40:09 pm »
I'd respray it myself. Set up a paint booth in your garage, get some cheap plastic dust sheets and tape them to ceiling/floor, and set up a 'spray booth'.
Lots and lots of fine layers is key, as well as plenty of time on prep, also remember the panels are away from each other so a slight change in colour (sun fading from your older panels) wont be as noticeable than say on your car if you were respraying a wing.
Worst case and you make a mess, let it dry properly and sand your mistakes away!!
Oh and yes i agree with simonm, the silver doesnt work with the rest of the bike.


Does it need to be sanded first ? (I'm guessing sand blasting would destroy it  :lol )


You'd do prime, base coat, top coat then lacquer ?


Where would you get the paint from ? (Aerosol ?)


I'm curious now..

Never had to respray a bike so not 100%, but sand, yes to create a 'key' for the paint to stick to, primer/base coat guess not as its an already pained surface, but depending on colours/what it says on the can maybe. Then topcoat/lacquer as the can/google tells you to. Paint again not painted a bike but would guess from a yam dealer/ebay or a lot of paint specialists can make an Aerosol up for you from the paint code.
 
From previous threads i'm guessing your thinking about you own bike simonm? Not sure as to what damage and what repairs you have done, but filler absorbs paint so will need primer, and have never painted over plastic welds but again i'm sure they will need some level of primer to get them ready for top coat.

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Re: Advice on painting & decals.
« Reply #8 on: 02 May 2013, 12:21:33 pm »
When doing my paint i sanded down to bare surface material on areas that needed filling/repairing. Let it go off. Wet and dry sand it till smooth. I found that areas that didnt need repairing just removing the laquered finish was enough. Used a coat of primer on filler and bare plastic/metal. Then the colour of choice. Giving a rub over with very very very fine wet & dry (use wet) between coats and a couple layers of laquer to finish. I applied any decals...etc before laquering but that was personal choice.18 months on still looking good.

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Re: Advice on painting & decals.
« Reply #9 on: 02 May 2013, 07:26:35 pm »
You all make it sound so easy! ;)  Always goes pete tong when i've tryed laquer.
 
....Think i'd better get some quotes first.

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Re: Advice on painting & decals.
« Reply #10 on: 03 May 2013, 09:07:40 am »
I came across this supplier whilst looking for something else via googlemaps in Hatfield (don't ask! :D)

 http://www.rsbikepaint.com/en-gb/colours.php

They'll mix up a 400ml aerosol of the base, topcoat and lacquer or you can get tins for use in a gun, but for the total price, i'm sure you could get it sprayed professionally.

I've got the same colour bike and I think I'd go for DPBMC too, but then again my hugger is blue too.

I think met black would work if you had the hugger to match, i'm sure we all know about accessorizing contrasting colours  ;)

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