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Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« on: 03 July 2019, 10:28:31 PM »
I'm having a test ride Friday, I wondered if anyone else has moved from an FZ1S to an MT10 SP?
Any tips?

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #1 on: 04 July 2019, 12:36:12 AM »
Yes, hang on tight when you hit 6000  :eek do you still have to leave money with the dealer? the last time I was going to have a test ride was at a BMW main dealer on a 1000RR they wanted £2000 pound,I honestly thought the bloke was joking,I was on a BMW forum at the time and it was the norm at certain dealers! needless to say I've yet to ride a 1000RR  :lol
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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #2 on: 04 July 2019, 07:06:28 PM »
 Make sure there is plenty of fuel in it before you set off.  It is silly thirsty.


It’s very quick and will lift the front wheel in second, third and forth on the power.  Just bonkers.


The excess at my local Yamaha dealer was 500 quid.


The excess at the BMW dealer was 250 quid.


At Honda it was a grand.


Nobody wanted to swipe my credit card to reserve the excess.


At Triumph Glasgow the excess is 2 grand – I declined the offer of any test rides.  I told them no way was I going out for a test ride on a two-grand excess.  I have later been told they also want to swipe your card to reserve that 2 grand.  The sales person tried to convince me that 2 grand was fine as next door at Glasgow Ducati (same firm) it was 6 grand on the dearer machines.  I laughed and left.


Anyway, the MT10 is a cracking bike, but it’s just too mental for me.  Lovely riding position.  But if you try to thrash the thing it’s like being in a boxing match.  And I figure every 80 or 90 miles you’ll be looking for fuel.


The CB1000R felt a bit odd.  I felt perched on top of it.  It’s quick, it handles, it looks absolutely smashing, but sounds awful on the standard can and it just didn’t do it for me.


My left field choice was the new R1250R.  The riding position is lovely, very natural and all day comfortable.  The new shift cam boxer engine is just incredible.  It has shed loads of low down grunt, and this latest incarnation of the boxer must be the first that could be described as bonkers quick, but yet it doesn’t want to kill you all the time like the MT10.  The suspension feels soft and it takes care of all the potholes etc with ease yet I couldn’t upset it in the twisties. (test bike had optional active damping) The handling is excellent and with all that everywhere all the time torque you can make seriously quick progress with ease.  It feels nice, sounds great and makes comforting grumbling noises.  Smashing bike.  Oh sips the stuff, I had it for two hours, probably covered the best part of 100 miles and there was still plenty in the tank.
 

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #3 on: 05 July 2019, 04:04:19 PM »
Had the road test today, on an MT10, hated it.
Too tall, felt like I was perched on it rather than sitting on a bike, a bit like riding a 70's trailie.
The worst part though has to be the engine, how have they taken a 4 cylinder engine and made it feel like a parallel twin?
Mode 1 is like a switch, everything or nothing, mode 2 was jerky as hell and mode 3 felt dull until you got the revs up to a point where you're breaking all the speed limits.
No useable torque until you're flying.

Overall it looks like plastic and didn't feel like a £15k bike.
I've told the garage to spend the £1k to fix my bike instead of spending £15k on a bike I don't think I'll ever get on with.

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #4 on: 05 July 2019, 07:54:39 PM »
Had the road test today, on an MT10, hated it.
Too tall, felt like I was perched on it rather than sitting on a bike, a bit like riding a 70's trailie.
The worst part though has to be the engine, how have they taken a 4 cylinder engine and made it feel like a parallel twin?
Mode 1 is like a switch, everything or nothing, mode 2 was jerky as hell and mode 3 felt dull until you got the revs up to a point where you're breaking all the speed limits.
No useable torque until you're flying.

Overall it looks like plastic and didn't feel like a £15k bike.
I've told the garage to spend the £1k to fix my bike instead of spending £15k on a bike I don't think I'll ever get on with.

Haha your the first person (other than myself) I've heard that's not impressed by it.
I didnt find it as bad as you I just dont think it's anything special. Didnt feel as fast as my Fz1, definitely uglier and as you say it's the best part of 15k for what doesnt really feel like an upgrade.
I think if I you came from a 600 or maybe a sports bike then it would be more appealing but not when you already have the older version

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #5 on: 06 July 2019, 11:00:33 AM »
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Overall it looks like plastic and didn't feel like a £15k bike.
You’ll probably get a new MT10 for 11K, you don’t have to pay 15K!
Why not take the R1250R or R1250RS for a spin.  You might just be surprised.  Nor do they feel cheap or plasticky.
 

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #6 on: 06 July 2019, 05:13:05 PM »
The R1250r has got under my skin, the boxer engine is smooth and torquey and the bike is quick comfortable and is very flickable, I also like it’s charachter of  rocking the bike left when you blip the throttle.
I would have one tomorrow if something happened to my fazer thou.

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #7 on: 06 July 2019, 08:45:26 PM »
I'm going to road test the S1000R but I just found out they are doing one in blue for 2020 so I might wait for that

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #8 on: 07 July 2019, 09:32:42 AM »
Overall it looks like plastic and didn't feel like a £15k bike.


Couldn't agree more, looks unfinished at the back and piecemeal at the front. Colours are abysmal.


Haha your the first person (other than myself) I've heard that's not impressed by it.


Make that two then. I found it really uncomfortable. I only took it out after saying to the salesman that it was uncomfortable in the showroom - he didn't believe me and said that once on the road I would love it because everyone else does, so I rose to the challenge and it was.... really uncomfortable. No give in the seat or suspension, crashed over everything and felt skittish. I only needed 5 minutes on it before turning it round and was grateful to be off it. It was 11 large at the time, I wouldn't give £50 for one.
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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #9 on: 07 July 2019, 12:19:47 PM »
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I'm going to road test the S1000R but I just found out they are doing one in blue for 2020 so I might wait for that
Meanwhile, why not try the R1250R.
I think you might be pleasently surpised.

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #10 on: 07 July 2019, 12:28:09 PM »
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The R1250r has got under my skin, the boxer engine is smooth and torquey and the bike is quick comfortable and is very flickable, I also like it’s charachter of  rocking the bike left when you blip the throttle.
I would have one tomorrow if something happened to my fazer thou.

I very nearly popped up to the dealer last Sunday to place an order.  My impression after a 2hr test ride was that it’s a superb bike.


However, VNA has knee issues again right now.  I’m keen on hill walking, so I’m gutted I can’t get out.  I’m trying to get them working for me again, but, I might need cash for a private referral.  And if a specialist Orthopaedic surgeon can help, well even if I can get it done on the NHS, I’ll not be riding my bike for a while if I’m recovering from knee surgery.


So it’s on hold.  Might yet go for it for September, but more likely march - I think.

 

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #11 on: 07 July 2019, 01:18:57 PM »
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The R1250r has got under my skin, the boxer engine is smooth and torquey and the bike is quick comfortable and is very flickable, I also like it’s charachter of  rocking the bike left when you blip the throttle.
I would have one tomorrow if something happened to my fazer thou.

I very nearly popped up to the dealer last Sunday to place an order.  My impression after a 2hr test ride was that it’s a superb bike.


However, VNA has knee issues again right now.  I’m keen on hill walking, so I’m gutted I can’t get out.  I’m trying to get them working for me again, but, I might need cash for a private referral.  And if a specialist Orthopaedic surgeon can help, well even if I can get it done on the NHS, I’ll not be riding my bike for a while if I’m recovering from knee surgery.


So it’s on hold.  Might yet go for it for September, but more likely march - I think.

Even better really if your going for brand new as the first wave of models will be done with so any potential issues should be have been made apparent. Also theres a good chance you'll be able to pick up a pre reg at a discount 🤔

Or even better a 'nearly new' one with a few thousand miles on it and most of the depreciation taken care of
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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #12 on: 07 July 2019, 07:42:55 PM »
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Even better really if your going for brand new as the first wave of models will be done with so any potential issues should be have been made apparent. Also theres a good chance you'll be able to pick up a pre reg at a discount 🤔
 
Or even better a 'nearly new' one with a few thousand miles on it and most of the depreciation taken care of

Wouldn’t think there would be too many ‘issues’.  The 1250 engine has already been fitted to the other boxers – the naked job being the last to get it, I think.  And the rest of the bike is more or less the same as the previous 1200.
 
Pre reg deals?  Not seen any dealers advertising them up here for a good while.  I know some of the big car dealers up here churn them out – seems to be some sort of bulk buy and sell em cheap arrangement with the importers. Doesn’t seem to be about meeting sales targets as it used to be. 



Which brings me to BMW.  Get the impression the bikes are mostly to order – massive factory options list.  They did have one in the showroom but it was speced up past 15K with a lot of stuff I really don’t want.  They did say they would be selling their demo model soon – but they don’t get run in right, and everybody is jumping on and thrashing em – right?


Also I laugh when I look at used BMW ticket prices. :\


With the Japanese 4 I can go onto auto trader or e bay and see loads of new deals which will help me negotiate with my local dealer – or I could just buy in the North of England.


But I looked for BMW deals – nowt I could see!   Not to mention their PCP deals are not very attractive. 



I’m wondering if they expect customers to pay RRP list price – we are BMW and all that….. :eek
 

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #13 on: 11 July 2019, 07:43:52 AM »
Morning gents.
Just had this link in my recommended section of YouTube.
Might be worth considering.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iASgwVjz46o



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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #14 on: 11 July 2019, 08:13:30 PM »
 The Speed Twin is lovely.
But I think the nine T is even lovelier, it’s gotta be the coolest of the retro bikes. 
The new T5 edition is just extra super lovely.
 

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #16 on: 11 July 2019, 08:16:38 PM »

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #17 on: 11 July 2019, 09:37:41 PM »
Starting to see a theme in your Bike choices 😜😜

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #18 on: 11 July 2019, 10:53:03 PM »
It's a worry.

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #19 on: 13 July 2019, 11:39:07 AM »
But really does nobody else think this new T5 edition is just fantastically lovely.
Am I only the the only one that sees this?  Am I loosing my mind?
Surely that is no polished turd.



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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #20 on: 14 July 2019, 06:41:51 AM »



Fantastically lovely? No. It's a good looking bike in an odd looking way, like many BMWs. I like to keep my bikes clean so spokes are not welcome in my house.


I have owned Hondas over the years - no problems ever, perfectly reliable. I have owned Yamahas over the years - never let me down, not once. Kawasakis too - generally reliable but brakes seem to need constant attention to stop them binding. BMWs - one (Rockster) and it let me down and was expensive to fix. So what am I supposed to think?


I have a good friend that has a new BMW every two or three years and they have given him a variety of problems, so I, for one, am not a fan.


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is it clean enough?

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #21 on: 14 July 2019, 06:53:19 AM »
Most BMW riders are out the same mould as most BMW car drivers T*SS*RS

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Re: Anyone bought an MT10 or MT10SP?
« Reply #22 on: 14 July 2019, 10:36:27 AM »
 
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I like to keep my bikes clean so spokes are not welcome in my house.

I think the spoked wheels look great.  But…..


I’ve ruled out a nine T as a daily ride because of them.  Those spokes are not sealed.  So the tubeless tyres have been fitted with inner tubes.  I suspect that means if you pick up a nail or a screw you have a very rapidly deflating tyre.


BMW have the know how to seal the spokes or use rims such that the spokes sit outside the bead.  I don’t see why anybody would want to go back to using tubes.
 

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« Reply #23 on: 14 July 2019, 10:38:04 AM »
 
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Fantastically lovely? No. It's a good looking bike in an odd looking way, like many BMWs.

It’s just - as the young hip things would say – awesome dude!
Look;

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« Reply #24 on: 14 July 2019, 10:39:06 AM »
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