Ogri, this is the mindset of the left wing liberal traitors appeasers.They are blinded by MSM propagander and will never blame the actual perpetrator.They are the reason that right wing extremism is growing. They are too blinded to be able to see this.The day they are willing to sit down and listen instead of throwing blame and labels around is the day that the real issues that affect us all will be able to be talked about and solved.Simply denying that there is a problem, does not resolve the problem but makes it worse.It always amazes me that these people think they are educated but cannot see beyond their own limited mindset.It's also got to be said that although I don't agree with them, I defend their right to express their own opinion.That's what makes us a free and democratic society......Oh.... Hang on a minute, it's a pity they don't practice what they pretend to preach.Is this Great Britain or North Korea ?
Quote Exactly, the values Isis and too many other muslims hold dear belong in the 19th century and earlier.I think you're missing my point
Exactly, the values Isis and too many other muslims hold dear belong in the 19th century and earlier.
I get the point you are trying to make but my ancestors were not terrorists,.
Quote<blockquote> I get the point you are trying to make but my ancestors were not terrorists,.</blockquote>Nope, you're still missing it. Have another go.
spot on dazza
Quote spot on dazza Naw Ogri. Read Dazza's post again. It’s a kind of Donald Trump style rant. It’s words joined together that actually don’t say anything. It’s may sound good, until you look closely and realise that there is no substance or meaning.
Ogri, this is the mindset of the left wing liberal traitors appeasers.The day they are willing to sit down and listen instead of throwing blame and labels around is the day that the real issues that affect us all will be able to be talked about and solvedIt always amazes me that these people think they are educated but cannot see beyond their own limited mindset.
Yep, your response pretty much sums up what I said.
You're an idiot.
No dignified self governing state should abandon responsibility for its own citizens in this way, trying to dump them on to poorer countries with failed security arrangements. Javid's behaviour is a recipe for refugee chaos and is moral cowardice of the worst sort.Not my words, but the words of the former Director of Public Prosecutions
Absolutely 100% agree.
Quote from: VNA on 10 March 2019, 07:30:20 pmAbsolutely 100% agree. Oh stop you two.
A home secretarys prime responsibility is to keep people here safe, is it not? Would not letting a jihadi bride waltz back into the country compromise that?
Herself. She turned her back on this country, so as far as I see it, she made herself stateless.
QuoteHerself. She turned her back on this country, so as far as I see it, she made herself stateless. That's not answering the question Ogri.I'll try again;Who do you think is, or should be, legally responsible for people like Shamima Begum? Or if you like, what country should take responsibility for her.
Ogri is correct - legally everyone is responsible for their own actions, but it's yet again a personal "interpretation" of the "legally responsible" wording which you love to peck at like a Budgie.