Fowlers/Bristol/ cb1000r

[ogri48]

Here we go.  Off fae a week or twa;

that actually looks pretty good..

[VNA - BMW Wank]

If it's of any interest, the March edition of Ride magazine has a back to back article on the MT10 v CB1000R.

I might need to have a look at that.

that actually looks pretty good..

The panniers look fine.  Can't find a picture of it with just the box.  Also wonder if a tail tidy works with the Givi racks fitted.  I'm not a fan of tail tidies but that number plate holder is dreadful.

[ogri48]

you seriously thinking of getting one mate?
Thats a lot of Wonga. Or perhaps its not...in 1996 at the NEC I was seduced by the latest incarnation of the blade (rr-t with the new 918 lump). I bught a new one for (ulp) £9250. By next summer they had been reduced to just over seven grand because of the impact of paralell imports..

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 Yeah I remember buying a mint low mileage one year old CBR600F in, I think, 1995.  I think I paid about 5k for it.  Rode it for best part of two years, stuck 15k on it and sold it 4.6k   The yen kept rising in value driving the prices up.  That was when I tried to give up bikes.  I was finished.  No more of tht nonsense    Yeah I remember the prices going through the roof, can’t remember but I think the Japanese economy overheated, crashed and the yen tumbled.  The dealers didn’t want to drop the prices cos the value of their used stock would be wiped out which would in turn wipe them out – so they kept the prices up and the grey importers moved in and wiped em out anyway.


I lasted a summer or two without a bike, then bought a 600 Fazer


But yeah trying to persuade myself to get out there and test drive a couple of bikes – probably MT10 and CB1000R.  Haven’t bought a bike since I bought the thou new in 2004. (cost 6k pre reg)  If it wasn’t for you know what, both theses bikes would be retailing for list price about 10k, not 12k.  But what can you do?  Need some half decent weather.



I could be tempted by a used or ex-demo CB1000R neo.  But I start laughing when I see the ticket prices dealers are putting on used MT10’s.  So I suspect an MT10 would probably have to be new. 

 

[ogri48]

howsabout a hardly dangerous...… its a blatant mt01 copy mind..

[ogri48]

 

[coffee]

I thought you was posting the same bike with another for a minute,what a rip off!!

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 You know I’m looking at that HD thinking that looks OK.  Not something that often happens with me.  Apparently, it’s 975cc and water-cooled, not due out to 2020.


I struggle to find any modern bike I fancy and ticks the boxes for me.  MT10 and CB1000R are all I can come up with at the mo.  The Katana that’s due out very shortly looks interesting, but comes with a 13ltr fuel tank.  So that won’t be any use.
 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 

If it's of any interest, the March edition of Ride magazine has a back to back article on the MT10 v CB1000R.

Cheers, checked it out.  Basically, they preferred the CB1000R.  They described the MT10 as always wanting a scrap, a bit intimidating, not for the faint hearted.  Whereas the Honda was sure footed and confidence inspiring, whilst obviously still being a quick bike, if not as quick as the MT10.


However, they are testing in winter, and admitted they might be fighting over the keys to the MT10 come the summer.


Makes me wonder how much of a bleedin beast is this MT10 thing.
 
 

[Dudeofrude]

Makes me wonder how much of a bleedin beast is this MT10 thing.

To be honest I don't personally get all the whoo harr about it. Me and 2 friends took some MT-10s out at Motorcycle live last year and none of us were particularly impressed.
Between us we ride a Fz1, Gsxr-750 & Bandit 1200 and it was only the guy with the bandit that thought ithe MT was a fast bike.
I can honestly say it didn't feel any more aggressive than my Fz1.
That's not to say it was a bad bike or anything but I wouldn't bother selling mine to buy one.
And it may be just me but I think it's a hell of an ugly s.o.b. I much prefer the honda looks wise. I even prefer the old cb1000r to the MT

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 Cheers Dude. Interesting comments.


Looks wise I hated the MT10 when I first saw it, just another modern mess, but then you notice after a while that a lot of thought has gone into the styling, it does have a theme and it flows from front to back.  But then there are so many nooks and crannies, how the heck would you keep it clean(ish).  Also, on the down side, a lot of bits seems to have just been stuck on at the last minute.
 
That CB1000R you have posted, to me, is just mingin.  It’s a cracking example of taking a good concept, powerful compact engine mounted in a light spine frame with a single sided swing arm.  Off to a great start, but then they start making it look as silly and ugly as possible.  I mean what is that thing on it’s nose about, the lightening plastic and the god awful colour scheme.  Buy hey each to their own.


But the latest CB1000R – same basic theme – looks so good!
 

[ogri48]

I suppose with that Harley it depends if they price it like they do the "big twins", or much more realistically like the entry level ones the purist look down their noses at.  For now, I reckon your bang on with the new cb.
Honda quality still outweighs the rest imho, and having read that same comparison test, if I was after summat of that ilk, that would be the one id go for. The clincher was seeing it in the flesh mate...photos really don't do it justice

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Aye it does look lovely.  Timeless good looks;

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Apparently the downpipes are single skin and turn black though. 

[ogri48]

ah thats a shame. Honda must be compromising a bit nowadays.
Remember when super nakeds that used superbike engines had lumps that looked like the back of a washing machine..all functional pipework etc that looked utter shite without a fairing to cover it up lol.
They've certainly got it sussed now...that motah looks the mutts

[coffee]

Makes me wonder how much of a bleedin beast is this MT10 thing.

To be honest I don't personally get all the whoo harr about it. Me and 2 friends took some MT-10s out at Motorcycle live last year and none of us were particularly impressed.
Between us we ride a Fz1, Gsxr-750 & Bandit 1200 and it was only the guy with the bandit that thought ithe MT was a fast bike.
I can honestly say it didn't feel any more aggressive than my Fz1.
That's not to say it was a bad bike or anything but I wouldn't bother selling mine to buy one.
And it may be just me but I think it's a hell of an ugly s.o.b. I much prefer the honda looks wise. I even prefer the old cb1000r to the MT

was that in full power mode ?

[coffee]

Apparently the downpipes are single skin and turn black though.

with the prices they're charging I would have thought stainless steel should be the norm, "turning black" whaaaat!?

[Dudeofrude]

Makes me wonder how much of a bleedin beast is this MT10 thing.

To be honest I don't personally get all the whoo harr about it. Me and 2 friends took some MT-10s out at Motorcycle live last year and none of us were particularly impressed.
Between us we ride a Fz1, Gsxr-750 & Bandit 1200 and it was only the guy with the bandit that thought ithe MT was a fast bike.
I can honestly say it didn't feel any more aggressive than my Fz1.
That's not to say it was a bad bike or anything but I wouldn't bother selling mine to buy one.
And it may be just me but I think it's a hell of an ugly s.o.b. I much prefer the honda looks wise. I even prefer the old cb1000r to the MT

was that in full power mode ?

Yes I had it in full power mode haha it's only makes about 10bhp more than my fz1 so not an overly noticeable amount anyway. I'm sure compared to a bone stock FZ the MT would seem a bit more "beastly"
It was the second time I'd taken one out. This time had been to try the SP edition. I wasn't much fussed on it either time. Although I did like the electronics, quick shifter, rider modes etc but I think I'd miss the charm of being the only thing in control of my bike

 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

with the prices they're charging I would have thought stainless steel should be the norm, "turning black" whaaaat!?

Aye it's stainless but it's single skin not double skin like say the gen1 Fazer thou.  So it will discolour.   If you look at the two pictures of the LINGS bike I posted you can see the exhaust looks a bit shitty.  It's done just over 1000 miles  Some people like the cooked metal look though. 

It does seem a shame on such a classy looking bike, with single sided swing arm, to then cut costs on the exhuast.  Presumably the aftermarket arrow and Akra downpipes are double skin, but then they are silly loud too.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Yes I had it in full power mode haha it's only makes about 10bhp more than my fz1 so not an overly noticeable amount anyway.

So what about that massive mid range punch they talk about.  And it's tendency to lift it's front wheel all the time. 

Need some better weather to go and try one.

[ogri48]

I took the missus out on the cb today for coffee and cake in Monmouth(eight frigging quid!) ive decided its not gonna be a pampered summer toy, its gonna be used as god intended....

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Foc!  You've dropped both of em

[ogri48]

 

[Dudeofrude]

Yes I had it in full power mode haha it's only makes about 10bhp more than my fz1 so not an overly noticeable amount anyway.

So what about that massive mid range punch they talk about.  And it's tendency to lift it's front wheel all the time. 

Need some better weather to go and try one.

It's there but it's no twin. It's all still too high up to be actually useful unless your playing silly bugger. As with most inline 4s the power just starts kicking in the same time the speed limit does.
As for the front wheel, if your a gear too low out of a bend then it gets a bit flighty but I never found it a problem in the straights. Then again I weigh 100kg myself so not a lot of bikes tend to lift too much unless I make them.
Even the superduke 1290r kept its feet on the ground when I was riding it haha

[fazersharp]

I took the missus out on the cb today for coffee and cake in Monmouth(eight frigging quid!) ive decided its not gonna be a pampered summer toy, its gonna be used as god intended....

The missus or the bike