BREXIT

[fazersharp]

And one person's estimate from looking at a helicopter image? Be serious

I thought you remainers liked the expert's.

No you're not  'interested in trying to find a true estimate '. You're just trying to discredit. 

You can have your 1m if you like - I am not trying to discredit it at all. I am just seeing some odd reporting of the numbers.

Anyway, I'll ask again, how many at Fartage's march?

There again I have been googling to try and find out but the results are being swamped with anti brexit stuff mainly about London. I think there are a core set of marchers between 70-150 doing the whole thing.Its one thing for the champagne socialist to go and have a short stroll in London - maybe take in a theatre whilst there or that little Rupert and Poppy to the park, and a totally different thing to commit to walking 270 miles in 14 days.Sums up the difference between remain who are just looking at short term gains and rewards and the leavers who are looking wider at the long term.   
     

[mtread]

Better a champagne socialist than Farage's Brexit Gammon 

[YamFazFan]

I was there.

So you keep reminding us
Just in case anyone hasn't got the message yet....
mtread was at the champagne socialists, overturn democracy march on saturday

[YamFazFan]

No you're not  'interested in trying to find a true estimate '. You're just trying to discredit.

And you're not interested in democracy if it doesn't result in the outcome you wanted.
You just try to discredit the legitimate result and want us to keep voting again and again until you get the answer you want.

[mtread]

Democracy isn't just a one off event.
You don't want a second referendum because you know you would lose.... heavily


OK hands up who's going to Farage's Leave Means Leave march.... come on now don't be shy..... Thought not. No conviction.

[YamFazFan]

Democracy isn't just a one off event.

OK then, best of three if Remain were to win a second vote?.


No thought not

[mtread]

No, the next one is final, of course


No idea what the question would be, mind you

[mtread]

Seriously though.... what is May's plan? She isn't putting through her plan for a 3rd because she knows it will fail again, and she won't follow Parliament's indicative votes. Without arguing.... what's going on? She's only got until the 12th. It's clear the EU won't move. Is she waiting for someone else to blink again?

[fazersharp]

I think the EU wouldn't mind a no deal - neither would May but none of them wants to be the one that has brought it about.May asked for an extension because she did not want to be the one that brought about a no deal. So the EU naturally granted the extension so that they are not the one seen to bring about a no deal, brexit tennis.The people want a no deal. -- See its easy to say, just like when remainers say "the people want a new referendum" .       
 

[fazersharp]

Listen to this

Now listen to this

Is it just me or do they sound the same

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 

mtread was at the champagne socialists, overturn democracy march on saturday

Well done that man.

 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 

That if you lose that one you'll demand a third....and a fourth............

I do wonder if you are really understanding this YamFazFan.
 
The argument for, and the reason why, the government may have to return this issue to the people is that parliament is stuck.  MP’s are not prepared to vote for what they see is a shit deal.  MP’s are not prepared to allow a NO DEAL BREXIT as it would be devastating for our economy.
 
Therefore, unless they find a way to move forwards (Norway?) they will have to put the question to the people.  This is not a second referendum on the EU, it is a referendum on the deal.  Do you want it or not...... The question will be;
 
May’s Deal.
or

Cancel Article 50


It will be legally binding.  There will be no further referendum.


 
Get it?
 

[mtread]

brexit tennis.

Can't be that. People move around in tennis.
What's a game where everybody stays perfectly still for months on end and doesn't blink? Brexit Statues.

[YamFazFan]

That if you lose that one you'll demand a third....and a fourth............

I do wonder if you are really understanding this YamFazFan.
 
The argument for, and the reason why, the government may have to return this issue to the people is that parliament is stuck.  MP’s are not prepared to vote for what they see is a shit deal.  MP’s are not prepared to allow a NO DEAL BREXIT as it would be devastating for our economy.
 
Therefore, unless they find a way to move forwards (Norway?) they will have to put the question to the people.  This is not a second referendum on the EU, it is a referendum on the deal.  Do you want it or not...... The question will be;
 
May’s Deal.
or

Cancel Article 50


It will be legally binding.  There will be no further referendum.


 
Get it?

That's not why the Remainers are demanding it though. They keep telling us that 'the people have changed their mind' and want another vote. They were saying that months ago.


You keep telling us that the people have changed their mind.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Chicken?

[fazersharp]

That if you lose that one you'll demand a third....and a fourth............

I do wonder if you are really understanding this YamFazFan.
 
The argument for, and the reason why, the government may have to return this issue to the people is that parliament is stuck.  MP’s are not prepared to vote for what they see is a shit deal.  MP’s are not prepared to allow a NO DEAL BREXIT as it would be devastating for our economy.
 
Therefore, unless they find a way to move forwards (Norway?) they will have to put the question to the people.  This is not a second referendum on the EU, it is a referendum on the deal.  Do you want it or not...... The question will be;
 
May’s Deal.
or

Cancel Article 50
It will be legally binding.  There will be no further referendum.
Get it?

That's not why the Remainers are demanding it though. They keep telling us that 'the people have changed their mind' and want another vote. They were saying that months ago.
you keep telling us that the people have changed their mind.

Where is the evidence for this remainers Unicorn "the people have changed their mind/want another vote" .
Is it the 5million votes on the gov site or is it the 350,000 that the experts say did the London march  short stroll   Even if you add them both up (which is being generous as the strollers will of also added to the petition ) that is still only 6 million at best which still leaves the other 10 million who voted to remain -- perhaps it its those missing 10 million that have changed their mind and want another vote to LEAVE.Especially after it has become clear to them that their unicorn of remaining and reforming will NEVER work.Is there any remainer that says the EU is perfect. ---------- NO     

[dazza]

Did anyone see the channel 4 news debate where they tried to show how the young people want to remain so they assembled a group of 18 to 20 year olds to give their usual biased account and it massively backfired on them.
I think this is the one.


https://www.channel4.com/news/brexit-debate-what-young-people-really-think

[fazersharp]

Did anyone see the channel 4 news debate where they tried to show how the young people want to remain so they assembled a group of 18 to 20 year olds to give their usual biased account and it massively backfired on them.
I think this is the one.


https://www.channel4.com/news/brexit-debate-what-young-people-really-think

Channel 4 really did not do their normal "research" did they. I can almost hear Jon Snows neck creak as he looks over his shoulder at his careerer with Channel 4 or the creak of Channel 4 bosses necks  as they place their heads in their hands.
Its a remainer unicorn that the now - eligible to vote 18 year old's are going to save them. They are not as STUPID as you think they are. And after the way the EU actually operate being brought into the spotlight they can see it all for themselves. And as for laughing that all the "old leave voting idiots" have since died SHAME on you as they are your Dads - Grand Dads. But remember that they have been replaced by even more in number  ( as the old keep out numbering the young ) - "old" and wise people. More so than the leftie - brainwashed few young that the remainers are pinning their hopes on.

The young are as not as stupid as you would like to think.       

[VNA - BMW Wank]

[mtread]

.The people want a no deal. -- See its easy to say, just like when remainers say "the people want a new referendum" .   

Yes and there's 'at least one hundred, possibly one hundred and fifty' marching demanding No Deal. According to some obscure 'expert' in a helicopter. Mind you, it took him 2 hours to find them 

[dazza]

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[dazza]

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[dazza]

 

[mtread]

So, Parliament votes 329 to 302 to debate alternative plans for Brexit


You are losing, one step at a time 


Second referendum on its way 

[fazersharp]

So, Parliament votes 329 to 302 to debate alternative plans for Brexit
you are losing, one step at a time 

There is nothing to be glib a about/ The only thing being lost is democracy. Vote leave won and before it is even carried out it is being eroded. backed by  the BBC channel 4 and Sky