BREXIT

[fazersharp]

The pound will strengthen

On that point, all day yesterday the "City experts" were saying that if Mays deal is voted down then the pound will drop. --- IT went UP 
The state of the pound has nothing to do with anything other than a bunch of frightened gambling children who either way (up or down ) will ensure that they will have trousered cash.

[fazersharp]

VNA You like to say that the people who voted to leave were just kicking the politicians. After witnessing the last 2 years of their shenanigans then surely those who voted to leave are not about to change their minds but instead to just kick harder.

 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 

On that point, all day yesterday the "City experts" were saying that if Mays deal is voted down then the pound will drop. --- IT went UP 

Tis a very fluid situation Mr Sharp.  The city experts were probably figuring on a narrower defeat, with May coming back for a second vote.  That would then take us closer to a NO DEAL scenario.
 
But the deal hasn’t just been fairly strongly rejected, it’s been annihilated, completely and utterly blitzed.  I can’t see May coming back for a second vote, not without some sort of significant change.
 
Still anything could happen, but the general feeling has to be we are heading towards a much softer BREXIT.  That can only reassure the markets.


And the value of the pound is one indicator of the overall health of our economy.
 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 

VNA You like to say that the people who voted to leave were just kicking the politicians. After witnessing the last 2 years of their shenanigans then surely those who voted to leave are not about to change their minds but instead to just kick harder.

But this was the wrong ball to kick.  It is not the EU that has shafted us and made so many poorer, it is our own successive right wing governments.


If we exit the EU without a DEAL, there will be an economic price to pay.  And just as with the financial crises just over ten years ago it will not be the May’s, Johnston’s, Moggs etc that will pay the price, it will be us.


Don’t forget that of the very few economists in favour of a hard BREXIT, though they claim a financial benefit for the UK, they are quite clear that it will also mean increasingly wage inequality and the virtual end of UK manufacturing.



 

[fazersharp]

On that point, all day yesterday the "City experts" were saying that if Mays deal is voted down then the pound will drop. --- IT went UP 

Tis a very fluid situation Mr Sharp.  The city experts were probably figuring on a narrower defeat, with May coming back for a second vote.  That would then take us closer to a NO DEAL scenario.
 
But the deal hasn’t just been fairly strongly rejected, it’s been annihilated, completely and utterly blitzed.  I can’t see May coming back for a second vote, not without some sort of significant change.
 
Still anything could happen, but the general feeling has to be we are heading towards a much softer BREXIT.  That can only reassure the markets.


And the value of the pound is one indicator of the overall health of our economy.
 

The city experts were probably figuring on a narrower defeat

Like I said "Gambling"

That can only reassure the markets.

Like I said "frightened children"

And the value of the pound is one indicator of the overall health of our economy.

No it isn't - the value of the pound is an overall indicator of the gambling of a select few crooked city children. 

[fazersharp]

  I have just heard Soubery spell out C.U.N.T in PMQ's  That has got to look fantastic with the subtitles on

 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 Like I say this absolutely unprecedented.  Nothing like this has ever happened before.  Nobody can be sure of what happens next.
 
But the priority has to be to find a way out and in a timely manner.  Already the signs are there that the UK is heading towards recession as a result of continued uncertainty, such uncertainty that is not just showing in industry and the markets but that can now be clearly seen in retail spending. 
 
So,
 
NO DEAL must be avoided at all costs. 



May’s deal is not an option as it is simply a withdrawal agreement – it means many more years of BREXIT debate and negotiation.  That would be a disaster.


Increasingly Mtread looks as if he is on the money.  An off the shelf Norway deal is still on the table.


Though the best deal will always be the deal we have right now.  At least a Norway deal takes us out of EU politics – which should satisfy the BREXITEERS – but allows our businesses to continue to trade with the whole EU market with little or no change.


Though beware that polls in Scotland are now running at 70% plus to REMAIN in the EU.  This could still be the end of the UK.
 

[YamFazFan]

Does 'Norway Deal' involve retaining freedom of movement?.

[YamFazFan]

I have just heard Soubery spell out C.U.N.T in PMQ's  That has got to look fantastic with the subtitles on

Context?

[fazersharp]

I have just heard Soubery spell out C.U.N.T in PMQ's  That has got to look fantastic with the subtitles on

Context?

She once again was moaning that one of her staff was barracked on entering parliment and there were no police there.
She said He was called a useless - and then she spelt it out as C.U.N.T..

I think it was "useless" that she said

[robbo]

Does 'Norway Deal' involve retaining freedom of movement?.

Yep, Norway deal does include freedom of movement, so that's a non-starter.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

<blockquote>Does 'Norway Deal' involve retaining freedom of movement?.
</blockquote>Yep, Norway deal does include freedom of movement, so that's a non-starter.

I’d have to check the agreement.
But in any case, as I have explained numerous times ‘freedom of movement’ was and is a non-issue.
All EU citizens (ie us) have the right to live in any EU member state – however the following conditions apply;


 1.       You must have a job in that country.
2.       Or you must be able to demonstrate that you have a job lined up.
3.       Or you must be able to demonstrate you have the means to support yourself.


 
 

If after 3 months you have failed to obtain employment that will enable you to support yourself, or you are unable to support yourself without employment you can be removed and returned to your own nation state.



That freedowm of movement is an issue is just another BREXITEER lie.
   

[mtread]

Well at least if there is another referendum I can look forward to there being another leaflet drop because my downpipes need re doing.

That looks suspiciously like an EU flag under your bike. Have you had a few too many sherbets again? 

[fazersharp]

Well at least if there is another referendum I can look forward to there being another leaflet drop because my downpipes need re doing.

That looks suspiciously like an EU flag under your bike. Have you had a few too many sherbets again? 

the truth is even more bizarre. its a Winnie the poo duvet cover

[YamFazFan]

If it were EU it'd simply be a poo duvet cover

[mtread]

Does 'Norway Deal' involve retaining freedom of movement?.

Yes but you have to movement around very quickly. It's cold in Norway 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Hopefully the next thing we will see happen is a move by pariament to remove the threat of a NO DEAL BREXIT.That means legislation to gurantee there cannot be a NO DEAL exit.That should give some reassurance to industry.

[fazersharp]

If it were EU it'd simply be a poo duvet cover

After brexit will we still be able to get duvets - they are a French thing aren't they ? Or will I have to pay a sleep a tariff. I will have to make do with the English version - an eiderdown. Or plenty of blankets and a bicycle frame 

[fazersharp]

Hopefully the next thing we will see happen is a move by pariament to remove the threat of a NO DEAL BREXIT.That means legislation to gurantee there cannot be a NO DEAL exit.That should give some reassurance to industry.

But that is the only thing we have left with to threaten the EU with.After May promised them all the money (for nothing )on day 1

[mtread]

When will people get it. The EU doesn't care about No Deal.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

But that is the only thing we have left with to threaten the EU with.

Which loosely translates into - give us what we want or we'll jump
Yeah that'll work

[fazersharp]

But that is the only thing we have left with to threaten the EU with.

Which loosely translates into - give us what we want or we'll jump
Yeah that'll work

Nah I see it more like this ---

[ogri48]

the eu don't care if it doesn't get its 39 billion? I think it might...…

[YamFazFan]

Of course The EU are gutted that UK might leave (I say might because I'm still convinced we're gonna get totally stitched up yet).


They're not going to show it, that's why they're acting all blase and nonchalant about it. It's all bluff. They are crying themselves to sleep at night thinking about all that cash they've had out of us over the years.

[YamFazFan]

May wins confidence vote by majority of 19, but it's the Labour Party who are going to control this situation from now on. Good job their leader is a eurosceptic