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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #675 on: 01 December 2018, 11:14:23 pm »
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so the EU can keep its bland tasteless lagers. If we are no longer able to get bratwurst, Gorgonzola, or Belgian chocolate, so what. In the grand scheme of things, they don't matter.


Belgian Trappist Dubble and Tripel, French Chimay Bleu, German purity laws and Schwarzbier. Spanish Chorizo, Italian Prosciutto, Olive Oil, etc etc.


Oh I forgot, you're from Up North  :(

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #676 on: 01 December 2018, 11:32:09 pm »
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Belgian Trappist Dubble and Tripel, French Chimay Bleu, German purity laws and Schwarzbier.
The Belgians are serious beer nuts.  Don't forget Czech beer.
And Port, where is Tim going to find an alternative tae Port.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #677 on: 01 December 2018, 11:39:47 pm »
I think when Fazersharp spelt Wetherspoons as 'Witherspoons' he got it spot on  :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #678 on: 02 December 2018, 12:06:21 am »
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forget a scot referendum it should be an English referendum
Well as London produces 22% of the UK GDP, we're thinking of getting rid of the rest of England  :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #679 on: 02 December 2018, 05:29:31 pm »
« Last Edit: 02 December 2018, 05:30:09 pm by Grayo »
I could change my opinion, but then we'd both be wrong.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #680 on: 02 December 2018, 09:04:27 pm »
I can't see any image Grayo,
 Anyway, I’m still struggling to figure out what it is you BREXITEERS want.


The one thing I can come up with is control of our borders,


Yet, the latest figures show that net migration from the EU has fallen to 74,000.  Non-EU net immigration is 248,000


So the claim that leaving the EU will drastically curb immigration is false.  What will do is impact on our economy.



Note also that under directive 2004/38 EU migrants only have a right to residence in a member state for 3 months.  After that they need to have one of three things in order to continue to stay – A job – A job lined up – or be able to demonstrate that they have the means to support themselves. 

So we already have the means to control EU movement.




 
 

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #681 on: 03 December 2018, 07:09:23 pm »
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Belgian Trappist Dubble and Tripel, French Chimay Bleu, German purity laws and Schwarzbier.
The Belgians are serious beer nuts.  Don't forget Czech beer.
And Port, where is Tim going to find an alternative tae Port.

I equally don't think that too much port is drunk in W-Spoons either. And we brew a very good Trappist beer right here in the uk.
Czech beer - we will just then have to wait for Staropramen and Pilsner Urquell until a Czech-Out which is on the cards once we show that it can be done. Urquell is much nicer than most of the boring German wheat beers. 
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #682 on: 03 December 2018, 10:56:49 pm »


Note also that under directive 2004/38 EU migrants only have a right to residence in a member state for 3 months.  After that they need to have one of three things in order to continue to stay – A job – A job lined up – or be able to demonstrate that they have the means to support themselves. 

So we already have the means to control EU movement.


What happens if they don't fulfil those conditions?.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #683 on: 04 December 2018, 12:04:59 am »
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until a Czech-Out which is on the cards once we show that it can be done.
Don't you believe it. I go to the Czech Republic and Slovakia every year. The EU are giving them too much money for them to want to leave

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #684 on: 04 December 2018, 11:31:20 am »
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until a Czech-Out which is on the cards once we show that it can be done.
Don't you believe it. I go to the Czech Republic and Slovakia every year. The EU are giving them too much money for them to want to leave
The more I find out the less I want to be in.
On a side note I thought that the Staropramen served in the bars was not as tasty as it is here for some reason but it was cheap but then again via the EU I am subsidising it anyway. Here I am tasting standard / cloudy and dark, did not bother with the one that is all froth.
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #685 on: 04 December 2018, 04:38:37 pm »
If you get away from Prague you'd rarely pay more than the equivalent of £1for half a litre. Likewise Slovakia. They also have lots of breweries, not just the few we get here. I like the dark ones best.
As to prices, they've always been cheap, even pre EU. Part of the communist philosophy. Give the population cheap alcohol and tobacco, and they won't notice everything else that's bad.
Then of course there's Scandinavia, with a slightly different approach  :eek

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #686 on: 04 December 2018, 05:49:41 pm »
 
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What happens if they don't fulfil those conditions?
They do not have a right to remain.
 

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #687 on: 04 December 2018, 05:59:32 pm »
 
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Well as London produces 22% of the UK GDP, we're thinking of getting rid of the rest of England  :lol

 
That might be a plan.  Under Professor Minford’s (the economist the BREXITEERS love) forecast the UK will in financial terms have something of an economic boost under a NO DEAL BREXIT.  However, it will be the financial sector that according to him be given a massive boost, whilst as he says the bulk of UK manufacturing will be devastated.


So, you could have a situation where London accounts for 35-40% of GDP while the north of England is laid to waste.  Think of the north under a NO DEAL becoming akin to the rust belt of the USA.


 On the other hand, a few years down the line you might see London, just as we are seeing today in Paris, being torn down once all those in the north, and in fact the vast majority of ordinary people, realise that they have been conned.
 

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #688 on: 04 December 2018, 06:11:35 pm »
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What happens if they don't fulfil those conditions?
They do not have a right to remain.

Does that mean they are sent back to the member state that they came from?.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #689 on: 04 December 2018, 06:14:16 pm »
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Does that mean they are sent back to the member state that they came from?.
What it means is that they are no longer in the country legally.  They can be removed.
So I am at a loss as to what the big advantage of BREXIT is.
In fact there are no positives to May's DEAL, and no positives to NO DEAL.


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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #690 on: 04 December 2018, 06:19:54 pm »
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Does that mean they are sent back to the member state that they came from?.
What it means is that they are no longer in the country legally.  They can be removed.
Are they all removed?.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #691 on: 04 December 2018, 06:36:30 pm »
Don't know what happened to my image so I'll try again.

I could change my opinion, but then we'd both be wrong.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #692 on: 04 December 2018, 06:46:54 pm »
European Court of Justice Attorney General has said Brexit is reversible in law, after Scottish legal challenge.

https://twitter.com/GrayInGlasgow/status/1070012341335572481
We now have a way out of this mess.
 

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #693 on: 04 December 2018, 07:04:33 pm »
More news

 The Corbin May TV debate is off
 Macron backs down on fuel tax
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #694 on: 04 December 2018, 07:06:08 pm »
And we will see the full legal advice that the government didn't want us to know. So the truth will be out
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46446694
I believe the BBC said this is the first time ever a government has been held in contempt of Parliament  :eek

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #695 on: 04 December 2018, 07:07:55 pm »
Yup that's a shocker. 
This is an absolute disaster.We need to ditch BREXIT and get our parliament back to running the UK.

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #696 on: 04 December 2018, 07:09:20 pm »
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Macron backs down on fuel tax
Well he's only postponed it for now, but who knows. Interesting in that what he wanted to do was equalise Petrol and Diesel Excise duty, which is what the UK has done for many years

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #697 on: 04 December 2018, 07:12:20 pm »
Don't know what happened to my image so I'll try again.
We've seen that nonsense thing before :z . I think mtread's already posted it

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #698 on: 04 December 2018, 07:12:32 pm »
Remain is on a roll  :lol

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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread
« Reply #699 on: 04 December 2018, 07:14:29 pm »
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I think mtread's already posted it
That is true, but I've got loads more  ;)