BREXIT

[agricola]

The most reasonable thing to do for the leaving MPS is to stand down and trigger a by election, after all, they used the party to become MPs. However, they all realise that only rarely do independent candidates get elected in the UK. Most , if not all, would fall into that category. They are simply hanging onto the gravy train. If all of this leads to some sort of realignment in the political organisation of the nation, that may be no bad thing, since the present system is outdated and corrupted

[slappy]

The most reasonable thing to do for the leaving MPS is to stand down and trigger a by election, after all, they used the party to become MPs. However, they all realise that only rarely do independent candidates get elected in the UK. Most , if not all, would fall into that category. They are simply hanging onto the gravy train. If all of this leads to some sort of realignment in the political organisation of the nation, that may be no bad thing, since the present system is outdated and corrupted

Looks like three Tories have joined them.  As Agricola says they are just hanging onto that gravy train, who wouldn't want to hang onto that £77,000  salary and expense account 

[mtread]

She's sick of the anti-semitism that's rife in Labour apparently.Truly 'The Nasty Party' now

Compared with a Government that can revoke ISIS girl's citizenship in five minutes but can't give it to Windrush immigrants who have been here 50 years. Denying one of cancer treatment because he had lost the papers proving he came here as a child. The Tories will always be the Nasty Party.
I see also 3 Tories have left this morning suggesting the government has been taken over by UKIP. Not the One Nation Conservatives May promised eh? 

[mtread]

Some friends heading over to France and Spain after March, have been told :


They'll need an International Driving Permit
By their insurance company that they'll need a Green Card
By a company in France running off road events that they may have to cancel as their insurance won't cover non EU citizens


Welcome to the real Brexit Britain  [size=78%] [/size]

[unfazed]

Make that 8. Another one's gone. She's sick of the anti-semitism that's rife in Labour apparently.

Truly 'The Nasty Party' now

Cambridge Dictionary give two meanings for anti-semitism:In UK Englishanti-semitism: the strong dislike or cruel and unfair treatment of Jewish people.
In American English
anti-semitism: hate or strong dislike of Jews, or actions that express hate or dislike of Jews
I did not think the Labour Party being a left wing were anti Jews.

Racist maybe, but anti Semitic unlikely
Just another excuse to break away.  

[agricola]

Odd isnt it, how members from the 2 major parties can now join the same independent party. One suspects that the ex labour people were always free market capitalists anyway, and sat uncomfortably in the labour group. Blairites i reckon. Good riddance. All Remoaners.

[ogri48]

yup. especially that godawful soubry woman..
btw
I think That old Blairite thing of just keep denyin it no matter how much the evidence is wearing pretty thin now
But Jeremy Corbyn is an anti seminite, thereby a racist
no hes not
hes an ira sympaphiser
no hes not
He has expressed sympathy with other terrorist groups too
no he hasn't
Hes a remainer
no hes not
a leaver then
nope
The labour party are the real nasty party
no their not.


right...

[mtread]

Odd isnt it, how members from the 2 major parties can now join the same independent party. One suspects that the ex labour people were always free market capitalists anyway, and sat uncomfortably in the labour group. Blairites i reckon. Good riddance. All Remoaners.

Just on a technicality it's not a party.... yet 
What I wasn't aware was that there were a bunch of undercover socialists in the Conservative party. Always uncomfortable with the Hostile Environment May and now Javid enjoy.
Seriously, both major parties have lurched to the right and left. The ERG and DUP are the Tory's Momentum.
Perhaps this is just what we need, an end to confrontational politics.
Oh and great they are all Remainers. No Brexshiteers 

[YamFazFan]

What I wasn't aware was that there were a bunch of undercover socialists in the Conservative party.

Yes it's quite incredible what passes some people by. For example, unfazed wasn't aware of the anti-Semitism in the Labour Party

3 of the Labour MP's who are part of the new independent party....
" Anti-Semitism is rife and tolerated"
"Labour is riddled with anti-Semitism"
"I cannot remain in a party that I have come to the conclusion is institutionally anti-Semitic"

[steve 10562cc]

Why is it called anti-Semitism IT JUST PLAIN RACISM AGAINST JEWISH PEOPLE  lets call it what it is and non of us should put up with RACISM. 

[mtread]

But Jeremy Corbyn is an anti seminite, thereby a racistno hes nothes an ira sympaphiserno hes notHe has expressed sympathy with other terrorist groups toono he hasn't

Just to flip the coin over.....
May is actually supported by a party which includes UDA terrorists
The Tories supported apartheid in South Africa and wanted Nelson Mandela hanged...... as a 'terrorist'
The Conservative party is riddled with Islamaphobia
So May and her party are not squeaky clean. We can all point the finger when it suits us.

[YamFazFan]

The hard  left spend their whole lives finger pointing. Consumed by hatred and chippyness (is that a word?..... It is now )
A lot of them remind me of Rick from The Young Ones, but a version of him that aged and never really grew up. That twerp that door stepped Jacob rees-mogg is the PERFECT example. What a twat 

[mtread]

The hard  left spend their whole lives finger pointing. Consumed by hatred and chippyness

You could be describing the hard right (not sure about chippyness though).
The ones that doorstepped Anna Soubry were..... frightening (and now prosecuted) 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 

The Tories supported apartheid in South Africa and wanted Nelson Mandela hanged...... as a 'terrorist'

Whilst Corbyn was arrested at anti-apartheid protests.

Yes it's quite incredible what passes some people by. For example, unfazed wasn't aware of the anti-Semitism in the Labour Party
 
3 of the Labour MP's who are part of the new independent party....
" Anti-Semitism is rife and tolerated"
"Labour is riddled with anti-Semitism"
"I cannot remain in a party that I have come to the conclusion is institutionally anti-Semitic"

And no doubt like most others they can't come up with any credible evidence of such ‘anti-Semitism'.
The truth is that those sympathetic to Israel, for example pretty much all Tories, are up in arms at the thought of, and for the first time, a British government highly critical of the apartheid racist state of Israel.  That is what it is about.  The Labour party is rightly riddled with MP’s and members critical of Israel and supportive of Palestine, but the Labour party is not riddled with ‘anti-Semitism’. 



Ask for the evidence of 'anti-semitism' and you will find little or none.  (just updated that to make it clearer VNA)
 

[agricola]

And no doubt like most others they can't come up with any credible evidence of such ‘anti-Semitism'.
The truth is that those sympathetic to Israel, for example pretty much all Tories, are up in arms at the thought of, and for the first time, a British government highly critical of the apartheid racist state of Israel.  That is what it is about.  The Labour party is rightly riddled with MP’s and members critical of Israel and supportive of Palestine, but the Labour party is not riddled with ‘anti-Semitism’. 



Ask for the evidence and you will find little or none.



Fair point

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 

Odd isnt it, how members from the 2 major parties can now join the same independent party. One suspects that the ex labour people were always free market capitalists anyway, and sat uncomfortably in the labour group. Blairites i reckon.

Indeed, hence they feel comfortable sitting down with Tories.  This looks like an attempt to re-create New Labour.


I mean Chuka Umunna – a Tory in the Labour party or what.  Good riddance.
 

[unfazed]

What I wasn't aware was that there were a bunch of undercover socialists in the Conservative party.

Yes it's quite incredible what passes some people by. For example, unfazed wasn't aware of the anti-Semitism in the Labour Party

3 of the Labour MP's who are part of the new independent party....
" Anti-Semitism is rife and tolerated"
"Labour is riddled with anti-Semitism"
"I cannot remain in a party that I have come to the conclusion is institutionally anti-Semitic"

I think you totally missed the intended sarcasm 

[YamFazFan]

What I wasn't aware was that there were a bunch of undercover socialists in the Conservative party.

Yes it's quite incredible what passes some people by. For example, unfazed wasn't aware of the anti-Semitism in the Labour Party

3 of the Labour MP's who are part of the new independent party....
" Anti-Semitism is rife and tolerated"
"Labour is riddled with anti-Semitism"
"I cannot remain in a party that I have come to the conclusion is institutionally anti-Semitic"

I think you totally missed the intended sarcasm 

Yep my apologies .

[celticdog]

Splinter groups meh it's been tried before. Anyone remember the SDP? The gang of four, never amounted to much and they where much higher profile politicians than the Blairite goons of today.

[mtread]

I mean Chuka Umunna – a Tory in the Labour party or what.  Good riddance.

Now on that point I will have to disagree 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 

Splinter groups meh it's been tried before. Anyone remember the SDP?

Aye, I remember that.  Thought I should add I was still at school at the time.   



Dunno if you saw Anna Soubry being interviewed by Kirsty Wark on newsnight this evening.  It was literally laugh out loud funny.  I mean seriously surreal and wet your pants funny (well for political anoraks anyway)



I dunno where this is going.  There are the Tories in the Labour party who just can’t shift Jeremy, then there’s the REMAINERS banging their heids against the wall in frustration at his refusal to stop BREXIT.


On the other side there is a majority in the Tory party who may refuse the whip come a NO DEAL scenario.


And in the meantime big companies like Honda have lost patience, have decided the UK is a lost cause and are about to foc off.


Oh the joys of BREXIT.
 

[ogri48]

At least we got our bikes mate, and summer is coming...

[mtread]

On the other side there is a majority in the Tory party who may refuse the whip come a NO DEAL scenario.

Dominic Grieve just said so on Newsnight
What worries me most is May's tactics. I'm convinced she won't let No Deal happen, but she's not telling anybody. She's getting more desperate by the minute to keep the ERG and DUP on side hoping that the EU will give her some weasel words. But they won't. She's delaying and delaying hoping for a thin majority in Parliament to support her deal, but there are now so many conflicting groups the numbers aren't at all clear.
As a result she's gambling big time taking us to the brink and no sign of a plan. We're doomed

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 We’re doomed, aye we’re aw doomed, ah tell ye, foccin doomed!
 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

At least we got our bikes mate, and summer is coming...

Have you seen what they call foccin summer up here?
 Yes well, if you still have a job.  If you are able to pay for the increased cost in motorcycles.   And yeah, I may have to make do wi ma 2004 thou as new bike prices slip oot o reach. 



There’s always the 74 C90 hiding in the corner of the garage if things get real bad. 



BREXIT, what a joy.  Thanks orgri, thanks for voting for mass poverty.  Thanks for making us all poorer