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Hard wearing metal paint
« on: 07 October 2018, 11:34:09 am »
When I lock my bike, I put the chain through the back wheel, but also through the pannier rack because it keeps it off the ground and also makes it a little more difficult for anyone to nick by freezing it and using a sledgehammer.
The only problem is that (because Mr Givi uses rather crap paint and metal on his pannier racks), the paint has got scraped off and the metal is is rusting.
So can anyone suggest a good hard-wearing paint I can use to keep it from getting rusty again?
I've looked at Hammerite, but are there any alternatives?

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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #1 on: 07 October 2018, 11:53:22 am »
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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #2 on: 07 October 2018, 01:46:39 pm »



Unbolt it and have it powder coated. K and N Portchester are local and good.
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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #3 on: 07 October 2018, 05:52:24 pm »
Don't know about Givi racks, but if it is a round section of steel that the chain passes over get a short length of rubber tubing (Black) enough to cover that section, split the tube length ways and pop it over the section and secure it with 3 or 4 black cable ties with the buckles underneath out of site.
Of course you should paint it first, but then the section could be angular then all above is nonsense. :'(

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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #4 on: 08 October 2018, 12:56:18 am »
Unbolt it and have it powder coated. K and N Portchester are local and good.

I've got some metal tube here that's powder coated, but it's got bits chipped off it from being bashed by another piece, so I don't really want to fork out on powder coating if that's going to be the end result.

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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #5 on: 08 October 2018, 12:57:39 am »
Don't know about Givi racks, but if it is a round section of steel that the chain passes over get a short length of rubber tubing (Black) enough to cover that section, split the tube length ways and pop it over the section

Ah! Now that sounds like a possible solution. I've got some old bicycle inner tubes which I could very probably do this with, then glue down the seam.

Once I've got the racks off, I'll experiment :thumbup

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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #6 on: 08 October 2018, 09:37:32 am »
You could consider getting one side plastic dipped, then just cut back the coating where it bolts to the frame and where the givi plate bolts through it.
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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #7 on: 08 October 2018, 10:56:13 am »
You could consider getting one side plastic dipped, then just cut back the coating where it bolts to the frame and where the givi plate bolts through it.

That's a possibility, but the inner tube is cheaper, so I'll try that first :)

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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #8 on: 09 October 2018, 08:57:41 am »
Just be careful about glueing old bike inner tube Graham - outside of the confines of the tyre, inner tube rubber rubber oxidises hardens in daylight/sunlight and loses its elasticity, then it cracks and breaks apart. It can be really messy to remove if you use something like Super Glue (don't ask me how I know  :) ).


I ended up using black electricians tape, which I just replaced every 6-8 weeks (in about 10 seconds each time). I bought a roll of 1" wide stuff and just put a couple of runs around the tube each time.

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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #9 on: 09 October 2018, 11:12:26 am »
How about a short length of pipe lagging kept under the seat. Then just fit it over the rack arm when you lock the bike up. When it wears away, chuck it and use a new piece.
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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #10 on: 09 October 2018, 06:58:35 pm »
Why not put the security chain inside an inner tube, then it will be rubber coated and non scratch.

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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #11 on: 11 October 2018, 12:46:34 am »
Just be careful about glueing old bike inner tube Graham - outside of the confines of the tyre, inner tube rubber rubber oxidises hardens in daylight/sunlight and loses its elasticity, then it cracks and breaks apart. It can be really messy to remove if you use something like Super Glue (don't ask me how I know  :) ).

I wouldn't actually glue the inner tube to the rack, but I could split it in half and wrap it around, then eg tape it.


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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #12 on: 11 October 2018, 12:48:02 am »
Why not put the security chain inside an inner tube, then it will be rubber coated and non scratch.

It has a cloth tube cover, but the last few links on each end still stick out from the cover and it gradually works its way up the chain so more links are exposed and then it's a PITA trying to pull it back down again :(

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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #13 on: 11 October 2018, 09:33:19 pm »
Can you still get stove enamelling done ? I remember that being very hard wearing.
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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #14 on: 13 October 2018, 02:15:04 pm »
Why not put the security chain inside an inner tube, then it will be rubber coated and non scratch.

It has a cloth tube cover, but the last few links on each end still stick out from the cover and it gradually works its way up the chain so more links are exposed and then it's a PITA trying to pull it back down again :(
I have a chain and the end of the sleeve is held at the last link with a rivet through the cloth nipping it on the inside of the link loop. Just stitch it like that to stop it riding up.
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Re: Hard wearing metal paint
« Reply #15 on: 16 October 2018, 02:06:39 am »
I have a chain and the end of the sleeve is held at the last link with a rivet through the cloth nipping it on the inside of the link loop. Just stitch it like that to stop it riding up.

Of course, that's obvious. Any idiot could have thought of that...

(Except this one, it seems :( )

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