ok so after searching the forum today some old posts talk about using 15w oil in the front end for a better feelHOWEVERno one seems to say what they have settings at for preload, compression, reboundanyone out there using the 15w oil with altered settings (mcn settings go out the window with thicker oil)forget town riding as i will live with whatever it is - i want it set for when i ride hard and fast so anything as a starting point on settings will be an improvement to its current state (oil change is needed so will do it as soon as oil is here)
NEVER heard of forks locking up, EVER?The adjusters on top of the forks were useless when i had them, i now have earlier model forks that don't have them and they've been fine for me, although admittedly i'm not normally chucking the bike about at high speed but if that's what you're intending to do then you need to do more research.15w oil most definitely firms up the front end enough to give it a much more controlled feeling, and i would certainly recommend it over 10w. Some people have even gone a bit heavier by mixing oils but i think that would be a game of luck and chance until you got it right.And obviously your own weight, top box, luggage and the odd passenger can change matters too.If you're a lightweight carrying none of the above then you may find standard oil works just fine, but i would say take a punt and go for the 15w as i personally don't think you'll be disappointed.
On that note I am going to shut the fuck up.All I am/was trying to do was to be helpful and offer some advice and thoughts on a phenomena that can and does happen, now if you think it's a crock of shit fine.Good luck to all who are trying to understand and improve their suspension on a budget bike with Damper Rod forks.tommyardin has left the building, Oh! hello Elvis let me get that door for you mate.
Quote from: darrsi on 16 March 2018, 09:21:31 amNEVER heard of forks locking up, EVER?The adjusters on top of the forks were useless when i had them, i now have earlier model forks that don't have them and they've been fine for me, although admittedly i'm not normally chucking the bike about at high speed but if that's what you're intending to do then you need to do more research.15w oil most definitely firms up the front end enough to give it a much more controlled feeling, and i would certainly recommend it over 10w. Some people have even gone a bit heavier by mixing oils but i think that would be a game of luck and chance until you got it right.And obviously your own weight, top box, luggage and the odd passenger can change matters too.If you're a lightweight carrying none of the above then you may find standard oil works just fine, but i would say take a punt and go for the 15w as i personally don't think you'll be disappointed.That is probably because you have the correct viscosity oil in them, or do not ride hard.I agree totally the pre-load adjuster a next to useless.Can you not see though if you have a fluid that is to thick to pass through a certain size hole quick enough when being forced it will slow the compression down to the point of locking, especially if more force is added rapidly as in hitting a fast bump on fork compression, it ain't rocket science. Do a search on the internet about Hydro Lock how and why it happens, it can happen inside an internal combustion engine just the same, where hyrdo lock can occur in high compression engines, it can bend con rods and fuck engines.It's Ok that some don't know about it, as it usually does not effect people, but that does not mean it does not happen or exist, ask the poor sod with the bent conrods and/or knackered crankshaft, or the poor foccer that came off his motorbike when cornering hard because because something weird happened to his front end when he hit a bump, it's un-explainable I just don't know what happened.
Actually I am as bald as a coot so the retaining of my hair follicles does not come into the equation.Using CAPITAL LETTERS in text indicates that someone is shouting which often means that someone passionately disagrees with something that is done or said.If one passionately disagrees with something that has been said it seems to me you are either saying they are wrong or saying they are mistaken or worse case scenario calling them a liar. Oh! Hang on I am not bald I still have my crash helmet on. Darrsi
STOP SHOUTING PUNK WE ARE NOT DEAF
Actually, the words Honest and Opinion should not go together.Who is to say anyone's Opinion is Honest as it is just an Opinion, a Humble Opinion is good to go. and of course has value.But that is all it is, an Opinion, and it is not absolute in any way, therefore should not be called Honest.Saying my Honest Opinion is claiming the the moral high ground and saying I am right, but lets not get pedantic about words.
Bit rude of me, sorry about that, but
HiRe the fork mod- you mentioned the linear rate spring would be a pretty decent improvement on the original springs- can you send a link to a suitable model of spring for this? I am 75kg in my birthday suit so probably 85kg or so loaded up with gear.The other thing is to make sure that these springs are compatible with the YSS emulators that MandP sell so if I want to go down that route in the future then I can!Thanks in advance!