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Little too much oil?
« on: 04 September 2018, 10:52:06 AM »
Just done another oil and filter change, I had a 4 litre bottle of oil but only managed to put about 2.7 litres in the first time round. Started her up for a few mins then let it settle and the oil was barely at the glass when level. So topped up with a bit more to make it half wayn took her out for a spin for 20 mins then came back and put her away.

This morning I've just been to check the level and its now pretty much touching the top of the glass when cold, I know it's a little fuller than normal but is that enough to be a problem or shall I drain a few ml?

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Re: Little too much oil?
« Reply #1 on: 04 September 2018, 11:11:34 AM »
You should start the engine for a couple of minutes first, then switch off and let it settle, that's the level you measure at.
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Re: Little too much oil?
« Reply #2 on: 04 September 2018, 11:59:55 AM »
Souds ok to me, I found that after 1 day like you it gos up and it will even keep going up after a few days after standing. Let it settle for 1/2 hour and use that as your guide, if you try too hard to get a perfect level when you look/measure after 1 day you will start to get oil light flash on fast acceleration.   
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Re: Little too much oil?
« Reply #3 on: 04 September 2018, 02:15:40 PM »
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Re: Little too much oil?
« Reply #4 on: 04 September 2018, 03:04:21 PM »
Souds ok to me, I found that after 1 day like you it gos up and it will even keep going up after a few days after standing. Let it settle for 1/2 hour and use that as your guide, if you try too hard to get a perfect level when you look/measure after 1 day you will start to get oil light flash on fast acceleration.

Erm, no, don't let it settle for half an hour, 'cos that would be wrong!
Do it the way I said above.
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Re: Little too much oil?
« Reply #5 on: 04 September 2018, 03:59:19 PM »
Souds ok to me, I found that after 1 day like you it gos up and it will even keep going up after a few days after standing. Let it settle for 1/2 hour and use that as your guide, if you try too hard to get a perfect level when you look/measure after 1 day you will start to get oil light flash on fast acceleration.

Erm, no, don't let it settle for half an hour, 'cos that would be wrong!
Do it the way I said above.
Which was
You should start the engine for a couple of minutes first, then switch off and let it settle, that's the level you measure at.
You never actually stated a settling time.


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Re: Little too much oil?
« Reply #6 on: 04 September 2018, 04:17:58 PM »
Settling time is a couple of minutes.

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Re: Little too much oil?
« Reply #7 on: 04 September 2018, 04:37:01 PM »
Souds ok to me, I found that after 1 day like you it gos up and it will even keep going up after a few days after standing. Let it settle for 1/2 hour and use that as your guide, if you try too hard to get a perfect level when you look/measure after 1 day you will start to get oil light flash on fast acceleration.

Erm, no, don't let it settle for half an hour, 'cos that would be wrong!
Do it the way I said above.
Which was
You should start the engine for a couple of minutes first, then switch off and let it settle, that's the level you measure at.
You never actually stated a settling time.

Can you imagine taking your bike into a shop for an oil change and they charged you 30mins labour for waiting for it to settle?  :rollin

It will level out and settle in a couple of minutes tops.
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Re: Little too much oil?
« Reply #8 on: 04 September 2018, 05:03:40 PM »
Souds ok to me, I found that after 1 day like you it gos up and it will even keep going up after a few days after standing. Let it settle for 1/2 hour and use that as your guide, if you try too hard to get a perfect level when you look/measure after 1 day you will start to get oil light flash on fast acceleration.

Erm, no, don't let it settle for half an hour, 'cos that would be wrong!
Do it the way I said above.
Which was
You should start the engine for a couple of minutes first, then switch off and let it settle, that's the level you measure at.
You never actually stated a settling time.

Can you imagine taking your bike into a shop for an oil change and they charged you 30mins labour for waiting for it to settle?  :rollin

It will level out and settle in a couple of minutes tops.
Probably makes little difference 2 mins or 30 maybe you should of said 30mins was not necessary rather than plain wrong. But it will carry on draining down with the sight level going up for another 48 hours.Also when you tip in some extra oil its easy to over do it because even that takes time to fully get down. I find putting in an egg cup full at a time helps :D
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Re: Little too much oil?
« Reply #9 on: 04 September 2018, 07:00:21 PM »
Oil! what do you mean Oil no one mentioned that when I bought it, I though the oil I mixed in with the petrol at 50:1 did that.
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Re: Little too much oil?
« Reply #10 on: 05 September 2018, 06:55:33 AM »
Souds ok to me, I found that after 1 day like you it gos up and it will even keep going up after a few days after standing. Let it settle for 1/2 hour and use that as your guide, if you try too hard to get a perfect level when you look/measure after 1 day you will start to get oil light flash on fast acceleration.

Erm, no, don't let it settle for half an hour, 'cos that would be wrong!
Do it the way I said above.
Which was
You should start the engine for a couple of minutes first, then switch off and let it settle, that's the level you measure at.
You never actually stated a settling time.

Can you imagine taking your bike into a shop for an oil change and they charged you 30mins labour for waiting for it to settle?  :rollin

It will level out and settle in a couple of minutes tops.
Probably makes little difference 2 mins or 30 maybe you should of said 30mins was not necessary rather than plain wrong. But it will carry on draining down with the sight level going up for another 48 hours.Also when you tip in some extra oil its easy to over do it because even that takes time to fully get down. I find putting in an egg cup full at a time helps :D


As a betting man, i will very confidently bet with you that the oil level will rise quite a bit more after 30mins than it will after 2mins due to an old scientific thing called gravity.
If you were to wait 30mins to let the oil settle every time after starting the engine when trying to gauge the correct level, not only would you be there a very long time but it would still be under filled when you've finished, highly likely resulting in the oil light coming on when accelerating.



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Re: Little too much oil?
« Reply #11 on: 05 September 2018, 04:33:25 PM »
what i meant by  little difference 2 mins or 30 is that most of the oil that is not down there will be down after a few mins so looking after 30 wont be that different to 2. i was rying to but at time on it as your original post only said a few mins, funny enough exactly the same as the manual. its easier to add an egg cup full if the light flickers on than it is to take some out.
i would say that the term- a few mins, is longer than 2 but shorter than 5 unless its mrs sharp getting ready and then i take a few to be 30
 
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Re: Little too much oil?
« Reply #12 on: 05 September 2018, 04:48:22 PM »
what i meant by  little difference 2 mins or 30 is that most of the oil that is not down there will be down after a few mins so looking after 30 wont be that different to 2. i was rying to but at time on it as your original post only said a few mins, funny enough exactly the same as the manual. its easier to add an egg cup full if the light flickers on than it is to take some out.
i would say that the term- a few mins, is longer than 2 but shorter than 5 unless its mrs sharp getting ready and then i take a few to be 30


That way of thinking i can totally understand  :lol
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Re: Little too much oil?
« Reply #13 on: 06 September 2018, 06:52:36 AM »
Done an oil and filter change about 4 weeks ago, put in about 2.7 litres and never bothered to look at the little window because on my bike it looks like the bottom of a bottle of Newcastle brown ale regardless how much or how little oils in there.  :lol  If the red light comes on going uphill at WFO, I also put in an egg cup full, starting with a quails egg and rising to ostrich if needed.
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Re: Little too much oil?
« Reply #14 on: 06 September 2018, 02:10:06 PM »
Done an oil and filter change about 4 weeks ago, put in about 2.7 litres and never bothered to look at the little window because on my bike it looks like the bottom of a bottle of Newcastle brown ale regardless how much or how little oils in there.  :lol  If the red light comes on going uphill at WFO, I also put in an egg cup full, starting with a quails egg and rising to ostrich if needed.

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Same as, I just did mine, and put 2.8 litres in with a filter change.
My glass may as well be bricked up, can't see a thing through it. I won't need to touch the oil again until I change it in around another 4000 miles time.
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