Tyre question

[darrsi]

Due to finding a screw in my tyre yesterday i'm gonna be looking for a new rear sooner rather than later, i've plugged it for the time being as it was in the fleshy part of the rubber.


I've decided to give the Michelin Pilot a go this time.


Question is which one, the PR3 or the PR4 ?


Bike's a commuter mainly, so i don't chuck it around so much these days, although i do have my moments, but i do like the tyres to stay planted firmly in the wet, and obviously longevity would be a bonus as well as wearing evenly.


There's not much price difference so i'm not bothered about that.


But has anyone tried both, and maybe preferred one over the other? Any thoughts?

[darrsi]

I've just read elsewhere that PR4's may not be brilliant in very cold weather? Can anyone verify this at all, as i ride all year round in the majority of weathers, just not snow?

[Skippernick]

I have a PR3 on the front and PR4 on the rear, they don't do PR4 in our front tyre size. Logically PR4 should be better than the PR3 as it supersedes it.
I switched from BT23 to these tyres and i have to say it was a revelation. So much more confidence in the rear tyre. I doubt theres much between them but the newer tyre surely wins.

[darrsi]

I have a PR3 on the front and PR4 on the rear, they don't do PR4 in our front tyre size. Logically PR4 should be better than the PR3 as it supersedes it.
I switched from BT23 to these tyres and i have to say it was a revelation. So much more confidence in the rear tyre. I doubt theres much between them but the newer tyre surely wins.

I've read a few times now that the PR4 has slighter harder compounds than the PR3 possibly as it was aimed more for bigger/heavier bikes, which may explain the lack of sizing?

[Frosties]

Oooooooooooooooohhh a tyre thread 


PR3 all the way

[darrsi]

Oooooooooooooooohhh a tyre thread 


PR3 all the way

I know, but at least i narrowed it down to two 

[celticbiker]

Pr3 for me too. I find the side wall of the pr4 a little bit stiff.
Just for the record my summer Tue of choice is the pilot power 3.

[slimwilly]

Metzeler

[Frosties]

Metzeler

Which one ???? I've had the Z6 on a 600 Fazer and couldn't fault them in the dry. When you looked at the rear tyre tread it made you think about grip, braking etc and unfortunately this proved to be a reality.

[darrsi]

To be honest i'm being swayed towards the PR3 the more reviews i read.

[unfazed]

Due to finding a screw in my tyre yesterday i'm gonna be looking for a new rear sooner rather than later, i've plugged it for the time being as it was in the fleshy part of the rubber.
I've decided to give the Michelin Pilot a go this time.
Question is which one, the PR3 or the PR4 ?
Bike's a commuter mainly, so i don't chuck it around so much these days, although i do have my moments, but i do like the tyres to stay planted firmly in the wet, and obviously longevity would be a bonus as well as wearing evenly.
There's not much price difference so i'm not bothered about that.
But has anyone tried both, and maybe preferred one over the other? Any thoughts?

I have used PR3s on the 600 and PR4s on the 1000 and both are excellent tyres in wet or dry
The best combination I have found with the PRs on the 600 and the 1000 and what I am presently running on the 600 is PR3 Front and PR4 rear.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Got PR3's on my thou.  Very happy with them.  They wear well too.  Recently replaced the rear, went for another PR3 as it was a good few quid more for the PR4.

[darrsi]

Due to finding a screw in my tyre yesterday i'm gonna be looking for a new rear sooner rather than later, i've plugged it for the time being as it was in the fleshy part of the rubber.
I've decided to give the Michelin Pilot a go this time.
Question is which one, the PR3 or the PR4 ?
Bike's a commuter mainly, so i don't chuck it around so much these days, although i do have my moments, but i do like the tyres to stay planted firmly in the wet, and obviously longevity would be a bonus as well as wearing evenly.
There's not much price difference so i'm not bothered about that.
But has anyone tried both, and maybe preferred one over the other? Any thoughts?

I have used PR3s on the 600 and PR4s on the 1000 and both are excellent tyres in wet or dry
The best combination I have found with the PRs on the 600 and the 1000 and what I am presently running on the 600 is PR3 Front and PR4 rear.

That's what i want to hear, i've never ever bought a pair of the same tyres in 30 years riding, always gone on realistic feedback.
I've looked at reviews in the past and found that some tyres, whether it be front or rear, can outdo the opposite.
The T30 has been good, albeit a tad sticky as far as picking up unwanted debris.
I really like the BT023 front, it just works for the way i ride.
But you've now messed up my decision again. 

[Val]

Oooooooooooooooohhh a tyre thread 


PR3 all the way

+1 for PR3 

  of said PR3 tyre 

[darrsi]

Oooooooooooooooohhh a tyre thread 


PR3 all the way

+1 for PR3 

  of said PR3 tyre 

It's certainly heading that way, £97 for a PR3, or £109 for the PR4 from Oponeo.

[Slaninar]

Metzeler Sportec M5 Interact have served me very well in both hot and cold. Though, never riding below freezing temps.

[slappy]

Got PR3s on my FZ1s,  they are round ,black and work fine in dry or wet weather. How hard would you have to work a tyre on the road to notice the difference between a PR3 or a PR4?

[unfazed]

Got PR3s on my FZ1s,  they are round ,black and work fine in dry or wet weather. How hard would you have to work a tyre on the road to notice the difference between a PR3 or a PR4?

The PR4 rear will last longer 

[unfazed]

Oooooooooooooooohhh a tyre thread 

PR3 all the way

What are you comparing them to?

[Jamieg285]

I've had 2x PR3s and on my 2nd PR4 on the rear.  Throughout these it's been PR3's on the front.

The PR3s lasted for 7100 and 5600 miles.  The 2nd one had more mileage in it, but was punctured (see below)
The 1st PR4 went for 9750.  Money was tight at this point, so I plugged the old PR3 and ran it for another 1200, taking it to a total of 7800, when it punctured again and I couldn't justify a repair at that mileage. 
Only up to 1700 on the 2nd PR4.

As for feel, when I switched from the PR3 to the PR4 I wasn't so keen.  It felt like the tyre was taller in the middle and tipped differently (imaging the two ends of an egg- the wide end being PR3 and the pointy end the PR4).  This feeling was confirmed when I switched back to the worn PR3.  I went with a PR4 again to see if I was imagining it, but I wasn't.

My next tyre choice may depend on the mileage I get out of it.  If it gets around the same as the last PR4 I may go for another one, just for value for money. However if it's not as good on the mileage, then I may go for the PR3 for riding feel.

[darrsi]

I've had 2x PR3s and on my 2nd PR4 on the rear.  Throughout these it's been PR3's on the front.

The PR3s lasted for 7100 and 5600 miles.  The 2nd one had more mileage in it, but was punctured (see below)
The 1st PR4 went for 9750.  Money was tight at this point, so I plugged the old PR3 and ran it for another 1200, taking it to a total of 7800, when it punctured again and I couldn't justify a repair at that mileage. 
Only up to 1700 on the 2nd PR4.

As for feel, when I switched from the PR3 to the PR4 I wasn't so keen.  It felt like the tyre was taller in the middle and tipped differently (imaging the two ends of an egg- the wide end being PR3 and the pointy end the PR4).  This feeling was confirmed when I switched back to the worn PR3.  I went with a PR4 again to see if I was imagining it, but I wasn't.

My next tyre choice may depend on the mileage I get out of it.  If it gets around the same as the last PR4 I may go for another one, just for value for money. However if it's not as good on the mileage, then I may go for the PR3 for riding feel.

Nice review there fella......just to confuse me even more. 
Was kinda going towards the PR4 but you just put me back towards the PR3 again. Good description with the egg. 

[darrsi]

Thought i’d mention i went for the PR4 in the end and i must admit i’m already loving it.
Bearing in mind the tyre is still a bit shiny as it was only fitted Saturday, and also i’ve ridden in rain and cold weather that’s created very slippery roads, the tyre has remained planted firmly on the road with not even a hint of sliding at all.
It’s unfortunate i had to change it now with the iffy weather looming but it’s a thumbs up from me from what i’ve experienced so far. 

[Frosties]

Well that only took you a month...............


Welcome to the PR3/4 appreciation society 

[celticbiker]

Love the pr4 but for the dry weather the pp3 ate far superior..

[darrsi]

Well that only took you a month...............


Welcome to the PR3/4 appreciation society 

I know, i was riding around with a plugged tyre that also had over half a bottle of that Slime stuff rolling about, it knocked the rear end well off balance.
It was more of a calendar thing though, the tyre took a few days to arrive, then it was my weekend on call for work so had to wait for the next weekend when i was off to sort it all out.


Again though, REALLY cold this morning and still the tyre felt very stable, and it can only get better once it’s scrubbed in a bit.