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« on: 17 October 2017, 03:48:07 pm »
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Re: Horrible cracks found in Float Chamber Air Vent Hose "T" Pieces!!
« Reply #1 on: 17 October 2017, 08:58:42 pm »
The are air vents, not fuel so shouldn't be a problem.  Maybe touch them up with silicone or some other sealant/epoxy as a precaution.  I wouldn't split the carb bank to replace them - too many other problems you might cause yourself going that route. :)

My bad ... I realized after several more post and photos that the T-pieces are the float bowl overflows, not the vacuum vents as I first thought.  They would only be a problem if the float bowls over-filled drastically (like with a stuck float) but for that reason, best to try to fix them.
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« Reply #2 on: 17 October 2017, 10:23:08 pm »
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Re: Horrible cracks found in Float Chamber Air Vent Hose "T" Pieces!!
« Reply #3 on: 18 October 2017, 07:06:07 am »
I recall now having to refit a couple of these during 'Ivanising' jobs.  If you could find a couple of replacements in good nick from a breaker, you should be able to wriggle them into place without having to dismantle the whole carb bank.  Warm the T-pieces in hot water first to make them more pliable. 

Consider also using 2-pack epoxy putty rather than Araldite.  Much easier to work into place all around the damaged area and more than adequate for the job the T-piece fulfils. :)

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« Reply #4 on: 18 October 2017, 08:35:31 pm »
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Re: Horrible cracks found in Float Chamber Air Vent Hose "T" Pieces!!
« Reply #5 on: 23 October 2017, 11:31:48 pm »
Those little rubber t-peice's cost peanuts, just replace them.

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« Reply #6 on: 29 October 2017, 03:47:49 pm »
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Re: Horrible cracks found in Float Chamber Air Vent Hose "T" Pieces!!
« Reply #7 on: 29 October 2017, 05:36:47 pm »
Try the carburetor parts suppliers. NRP it think theyre called

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Re: Horrible cracks found in Float Chamber Air Vent Hose "T" Pieces!!
« Reply #8 on: 29 October 2017, 05:57:15 pm »
Try the carburetor parts suppliers. NRP it think theyre called



Just a thought if they are vents why not try your local Aquarium shop the do a couple of sizes of T pieces for fish tank air pumps. Some places do brass versions and being brass will never ever perish again, plastic has a habit of going brittle.
Just a thought :D
Short length of tube to connect the top of the tee piece to the alloy parts and the upright of the tee should push down inside the tube as the original does


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pond-Aquarium-Tropical-Marine-FishTank-Airline-Fitting-4mm-TEE-T-Piece/122431689747?hash=item1c817f5413:m:mf_98lfkp0QS4__xAaHEcuA

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3Pcs-8mm-ID-Brass-Aquarium-Fish-Tank-Y-Shape-3-Ways-Airline-Air-Control-Valve/351633429551?epid=1454714818&hash=item51defc542f:g:ImUAAOSwozRZ0~Q1


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« Reply #9 on: 29 October 2017, 09:13:25 pm »
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Re: Horrible cracks found in Float Chamber Air Vent Hose "T" Pieces!!
« Reply #10 on: 30 October 2017, 07:43:32 am »
The trouble with brass - or any other rigid plastic alternate, assuming you could find the right size - is that you'd have to split the carb bank to fit them.

The OE parts are flexible when new and can be wriggled into place with care. :)

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« Reply #11 on: 30 October 2017, 08:32:33 am »
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« Reply #12 on: 30 October 2017, 08:46:43 am »
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Re: Horrible cracks found in Float Chamber Air Vent Hose "T" Pieces!!
« Reply #13 on: 30 October 2017, 06:07:25 pm »
The T-pieces are the carb end of the float bowl overflows.  They don't affect the running any way, Mitch.  The hoses terminate eventually behind the right-hand footrest.

I had a look in my box of spares this morning but came up empty-handed, sorry.  I'll keep my eyes open, though. :)

I've amended my first post above as I originally thought you'd posted photos of the float chamber vacuum hoses.  My mistake, sorry.  Because the overflows are there to drain excess fuel away from the float bowls (like if you get a stuck float) it would be best to try to replace them or do a pukka job of sealing them with epoxy.  Not a good idea to have fuel dripping down onto the top of the motor ... ;(
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« Reply #14 on: 31 October 2017, 09:57:48 am »
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Re: Horrible cracks found in Float Chamber Air Vent Hose "T" Pieces!!
« Reply #15 on: 31 October 2017, 11:40:07 am »
The trouble with brass - or any other rigid plastic alternate, assuming you could find the right size - is that you'd have to split the carb bank to fit them.

The OE parts are flexible when new and can be wriggled into place with care. :)


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Re: Horrible cracks found in Float Chamber Air Vent Hose "T" Pieces!!
« Reply #16 on: 01 November 2017, 07:49:25 am »
Thats a great idea!, (I didn't think that they were available because they are not identified by a part number on Yamaha's parts list), where can I get them from please? Cheers, Mitch
Just do what I did and go to your local yam dealer, they actually had them in stock. I imagine because Yamaha has used them on other bikes.

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« Reply #17 on: 01 November 2017, 01:18:02 pm »
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Re: Horrible cracks found in Float Chamber Air Vent Hose "T" Pieces!!
« Reply #18 on: 01 November 2017, 07:13:57 pm »
Check out this Suzuki part number 13683-01DB0 from the Bandit 1200, although common enough across many of the carburettored Suzukis
I just checked and Fowlers have them in stock, they look very like what you need.

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« Reply #19 on: 01 November 2017, 08:50:25 pm »
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Re: Cracks found in Float Chamber Air Vent Hose "T" Pieces!!
« Reply #20 on: 02 November 2017, 06:35:16 pm »
Good news, Mitch.

Nice work, unfazed. :)

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« Reply #21 on: 04 November 2017, 01:40:04 pm »
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Re: Cracks found in Float Chamber Air Vent Hose "T" Pieces!!
« Reply #22 on: 04 November 2017, 06:25:33 pm »
Nice job, Mitch and kudos to unfazed for getting you looking alternative directions for the T-pieces.  He's the one to thank here. :)

Thanks to you, too, for doing such a thorough job with the photos and write-ups.  There could well be others who will benefit from your experiences with this problem.


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Re: Cracks found in Float Chamber Air Vent Hose "T" Pieces!!
« Reply #23 on: 04 November 2017, 09:06:58 pm »
Nice job, Mitch and kudos to unfazed for getting you looking alternative directions for the T-pieces.  He's the one to thank here. :)

Thanks to you, too, for doing such a thorough job with the photos and write-ups.  There could well be others who will benefit from your experiences with this problem.
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Re: Cracks found in Float Chamber Air Vent Hose "T" Pieces!!
« Reply #24 on: 05 November 2017, 07:46:38 am »
Suzuki part number - 13683 01DB0 - £10.51+ Vat each - [23mm Long]
Triumph part no, (slightly less width) 1240025T03 - £1.62+ Vat each, [18mm Long]


Bloody hell that is one heck of a price difference. What a relief that the Triumph ones fit!