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Over wintering my FZS 600
« on: 29 September 2017, 10:15:58 pm »
 Last year I put a fuel additive in my petrol tank and left it full over winter after starting the bike and leaving it running for 20 minutes to get it up to temperature and get the additive through the carb system.
I don't recall what it was called other than it was a stabiliser of some discription that also helped stop varnishing of the fuel system anyone have any recommendations

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #1 on: 29 September 2017, 10:36:06 pm »
You could let me run it up to London and back each day over the winter Tommy - save you the cost of that expensive additive and will keep the battery topped up.


Let me know your thoughts eh....

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #2 on: 29 September 2017, 10:40:21 pm »

Last year I put a fuel additive in my petrol tank and left it full over winter after starting the bike and leaving it running for 20 minutes to get it up to temperature and get the additive through the carb system.
I don't recall what it was called other than it was a stabiliser of some discription that also helped stop varnishing of the fuel system anyone have any recommendations
  This is what I've used for years now
https://www.frost.co.uk/sta-bil-fuel-preservative-stabilizer-236ml.html

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #3 on: 29 September 2017, 10:46:39 pm »
This is now appropriate, and you must ignore the name of it, simply because the gear has been around since the '20's.
Remember my issues with starting my bike, which went on for around 10 months, and it was a proper nightmare for me?
I used this additive and it resolved the issue within a day, but not only that, the bike has run so sweetly ever since i can't recommend it enough.
What's held me back from mentioning it is the damn name of it......Marvel's Mystery Oil.


When you've stopped laughing, Google it and read reviews.
Bear in mind how long it's been around, it can't be bad, and what it does is clean, but more importantly, lubricate the fuel system.
The bike now starts on the button with no need for throttle, and pulls like a train.
I worked out you need about 60ml per tank, which i natrowed down to using "roughly" half a lid of a 500ml spray can.
I now use it once every 4 full tanks of fuel and it has helped like you wouldn't believe.


As said, do your research anyway, and listen to what people say, but i can honestly say it works wonders, so can only imagine it will protect against varnishing.


Using half a cap will give you about 16 goes for the near litre you get for around £14 on Ebay.


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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #4 on: 29 September 2017, 11:16:32 pm »

This is now appropriate, and you must ignore the name of it, simply because the gear has been around since the '20's.
Remember my issues with starting my bike, which went on for around 10 months, and it was a proper nightmare for me?
I used this additive and it resolved the issue within a day, but not only that, the bike has run so sweetly ever since i can't recommend it enough.
What's held me back from mentioning it is the damn name of it......Marvel's Mystery Oil.


When you've stopped laughing, Google it and read reviews.
Bear in mind how long it's been around, it can't be bad, and what it does is clean, but more importantly, lubricate the fuel system.
The bike now starts on the button with no need for throttle, and pulls like a train.
I worked out you need about 60ml per tank, which i natrowed down to using "roughly" half a lid of a 500ml spray can.
I now use it once every 4 full tanks of fuel and it has helped like you wouldn't believe.


As said, do your research anyway, and listen to what people say, but i can honestly say it works wonders, so can only imagine it will protect against varnishing.


Using half a cap will give you about 16 goes for the near litre you get for around £14 on Ebay.


Highly recommended from me!  :thumbup

  I've seen it before but never used it. I may try a bottle. Given the problems folks on here have with seized fasteners it may be worth giving this a go
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marvel-Lubricating-Penetrating-Oil-3-x-113ml-12-Fluid-Oz-/122728952693?hash=item1c93373375:g:h-MAAOSwcMtZzN72

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #5 on: 30 September 2017, 12:44:49 am »
Don't overuse it, every 4 tank fulls has worked just fine.
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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #6 on: 30 September 2017, 09:32:51 am »
I have used Yamalube fuel stabiliser and conditioner for the past 5 years when laying up bikes for the winter. Ride to the petrol station with Yamalube in pocket, put required amount in, brim tank, ride home, lay up. ACF 50 also applied. Bikes have always started and run without issues after 6 months non use.

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #7 on: 30 September 2017, 10:01:01 am »
 I don't have the luxury of a garage so I use a vac bag, I plan to take my exhaust and centre stand and maybe one or two other bits off before I put it away, so that I can respray them during the cold dark months.

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #8 on: 30 September 2017, 04:12:41 pm »
You could let me run it up to London and back each day over the winter Tommy - save you the cost of that expensive additive and will keep the battery topped up.


Let me know your thoughts eh....


I appreciate that you are really putting yourself out in the pursuit of kindness, and, I am overwhelmed with your generosity.
But I fear it might end up an old rust bucket like that old dog that you ride :lol

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #9 on: 30 September 2017, 04:20:55 pm »
Granted it's picked up a few spots that needed repainting and a few mods to help with the winter but generally I think it's holding up quite well. The parts should swap straight over to yours.......let me know

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #10 on: 30 September 2017, 04:23:54 pm »
This is now appropriate, and you must ignore the name of it, simply because the gear has been around since the '20's.
Remember my issues with starting my bike, which went on for around 10 months, and it was a proper nightmare for me?
I used this additive and it resolved the issue within a day, but not only that, the bike has run so sweetly ever since i can't recommend it enough.
What's held me back from mentioning it is the damn name of it......Marvel's Mystery Oil.


When you've stopped laughing, Google it and read reviews.
Bear in mind how long it's been around, it can't be bad, and what it does is clean, but more importantly, lubricate the fuel system.
The bike now starts on the button with no need for throttle, and pulls like a train.
I worked out you need about 60ml per tank, which i natrowed down to using "roughly" half a lid of a 500ml spray can.
I now use it once every 4 full tanks of fuel and it has helped like you wouldn't believe.


As said, do your research anyway, and listen to what people say, but i can honestly say it works wonders, so can only imagine it will protect against varnishing.


Using half a cap will give you about 16 goes for the near litre you get for around £14 on Ebay.


Highly recommended from me!  :thumbup



Sounds like I will need to put my pants on over the top of my jeans a shove a couple of pairs of socks down the front before using this stuff.


Had a look on eBay and have made a purchase.  :lol

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marvel-Mystery-Oil-Fuel-Oil-Additive-US-Quart-946-ml-/111872395196?hash=item1a0c1d47bc:g:mCcAAOSwJoNZyGSr

[/size]Or alternatively

[/size]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marvel-Masterworks-The-Mighty-Thor-Journey-Into-Mystery-s-111-120-Ann-1-/152715667482?hash=item238e90281a:g:W~8AAOSw~oFZx7T~

Cheers Darrsi  :D

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #11 on: 30 September 2017, 04:34:26 pm »
Granted it's picked up a few spots that needed repainting and a few mods to help with the winter but generally I think it's holding up quite well. The parts should swap straight over to yours.......let me know


Now that is one Bad Assed looking FZS 600.
WTF is that in the header pipes a turbo or something?

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #12 on: 30 September 2017, 04:53:01 pm »



That baby would turn a few heads if it had some decent road tyres on it, make some of the 600 sport boys wonder what the f--k was going on :lol

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #13 on: 30 September 2017, 05:42:48 pm »
 That is properly bad ass cool, not like the poncey arsed wannabes that the 'distinguished gentleman' hipster types think are cool

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« Reply #14 on: 30 September 2017, 05:57:39 pm »
That is properly bad ass cool, not like the poncey arsed wannabes that the 'distinguished gentleman' hipster types think are cool


Yeah that's a tear yer head off and shit down yer neck type bike. lol Love it  :lol

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #15 on: 30 September 2017, 08:05:48 pm »

Just been doing a bit of research on 'Marvel Mystery Oil' it appears to be a UCL (Upper Cylinder Lubricant) rather than a preservative/stabiliser, so I have also ordered a bottle of Stabil to go along with the Marvel. A good slug of each in a full tank, 5 mile blast to work it around the system and get the old girl up to temperature, and jobs a good un, then away she goes until March. 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STABIL-Fuel-Stabiliser-Stabilizer-Petrol-Additive-Motorbike-Scooter-Generator/162305439287?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D47510%26meid%3D4145e96f4f07474bb31ee31a8a73db0b%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D162645437609&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #16 on: 01 October 2017, 12:26:48 am »
Apologies Tommy, but believe me it's still money well spent.
I ordered another bottle recently, the way the bike starts now on the button without any blip at all is just great.
Not heard of anyone else on here that's ever used it, but i can only praise the stuff.


I don't recommend using it in the sump though. It is oil based but apparently it cleans it too well so may cause unwanted and unnecessary issues.
Keep to fuel only.

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« Reply #17 on: 01 October 2017, 09:42:21 am »
Apologies Tommy, but believe me it's still money well spent.
I ordered another bottle recently, the way the bike starts now on the button without any blip at all is just great.
Not heard of anyone else on here that's ever used it, but i can only praise the stuff.


I don't recommend using it in the sump though. It is oil based but apparently it cleans it too well so may cause unwanted and unnecessary issues.
Keep to fuel only.


No apologies necessary it sounds really good stuff and as some of the gumph about makes a lot of sense.
Fuel of yesteryear had a lead content in them that actually lubricated any areas of the engine that fuel touched, not today so it actually is benificial to use a UCL additive.
(I use the word 'beneficial, and not the word 'necessary')


When going out on blasts with mates I often shove 10 ml/cc of Castrol R in with a tank full of petrol just for the smell, In hasten to add the rider never benefits from the smell it generates but the followers do.


Breathing in burnt Castrol R can actually give you diareahoa and allegedly often happened to guys who worked in the pit lanes at race tracks years ago.
Castrol R was a brilliant lubricant but it had its faults, it is not such a popular lube as it was but still used for a lot of classic type races.
Apparently it gums up things like piston rings and other components, meaning complete strip downs and rebuilds every few races.
So a Mirical Mystery Oil  and Stabil cocktail it is, if the bike doesn't perform like a Mighty Thou next Spring I will be most suprised.  :lol

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #18 on: 01 October 2017, 09:55:22 am »
Apologies Tommy, but believe me it's still money well spent.
I ordered another bottle recently, the way the bike starts now on the button without any blip at all is just great.
Not heard of anyone else on here that's ever used it, but i can only praise the stuff.


I don't recommend using it in the sump though. It is oil based but apparently it cleans it too well so may cause unwanted and unnecessary issues.
Keep to fuel only.


No apologies necessary it sounds really good stuff and as some of the gumph about makes a lot of sense.
Fuel of yesteryear had a lead content in them that actually lubricated any areas of the engine that fuel touched, not today so it actually is benificial to use a UCL additive.
(I use the word 'beneficial, and not the word 'necessary')


When going out on blasts with mates I often shove 10 ml/cc of Castrol R in with a tank full of petrol just for the smell, In hasten to add the rider never benefits from the smell it generates but the followers do.


Breathing in burnt Castrol R can actually give you diareahoa and allegedly often happened to guys who worked in the pit lanes at race tracks years ago.
Castrol R was a brilliant lubricant but it had its faults, it is not such a popular lube as it was but still used for a lot of classic type races.
Apparently it gums up things like piston rings and other components, meaning complete strip downs and rebuilds every few races.
So a Mirical Mystery Oil  and Stabil cocktail it is, if the bike doesn't perform like a Mighty Thou next Spring I will be most suprised.  :lol


Me and my brother used to go and watch speedway every so often so i know the smell you're on about.
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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #19 on: 01 October 2017, 09:52:56 pm »
I just love Castrol R and I have a can in my shed which I bought to use on my old BSA (now sold) but I pop a bit in my bike every now and then and especially if I'm on a ride-out with some friends just so they can get a whiff.
I was told it is basically castor oil so that's probably why it causes stomach complaints...

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« Reply #20 on: 01 October 2017, 11:12:12 pm »
I just love Castrol R and I have a can in my shed which I bought to use on my old BSA (now sold) but I pop a bit in my bike every now and then and especially if I'm on a ride-out with some friends just so they can get a whiff.
I was told it is basically castor oil so that's probably why it causes stomach complaints...


Yep that is exactly what it is Castor Oil, it used to be given as a medicine for tummy upsets and constipation, hence the old tom tits if you breathed a lot in. it lubes your passageways. lol, now lets move on. :eek

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« Reply #21 on: 01 October 2017, 11:28:00 pm »
I just love Castrol R and I have a can in my shed which I bought to use on my old BSA (now sold) but I pop a bit in my bike every now and then and especially if I'm on a ride-out with some friends just so they can get a whiff.
I was told it is basically castor oil so that's probably why it causes stomach complaints...


Yep that is exactly what it is Castor Oil, it used to be given as a medicine for tummy upsets and constipation, hence the old tom tits if you breathed a lot in. it lubes your passageways. lol, now lets move on. :eek


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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #22 on: 02 October 2017, 10:49:57 pm »
Im gonna give this marvels stuff a go i think , Sad times the winter is coming :'(   in the shed she goes.

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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #23 on: 02 October 2017, 11:07:35 pm »
Im gonna give this marvels stuff a go i think , Sad times the winter is coming :'(   in the shed she goes.


I would've mentioned it ages ago if it wasn't for the daft name, but it's been around over 90 years so can't be all bad.
Worked bloody wonders on my bike, and still is.
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Re: Over wintering my FZS 600
« Reply #24 on: 03 October 2017, 12:40:18 am »

Same a that in the shed she goes :'(

Just waiting the delivery of Marvel Oil and Stabil fuel stabilizer and she done for the year.

I had the chain off and cleaned it, back on and lubed with a liberal coating or two of chain lube spray then adjusted.
Oil Change and new filter (Seemed a bit wasteful in some ways oil has only done 1.25K) new plugs, air filter (Paper element one),  new in-line petrol filter, fresh brake fluid back & front drained and refilled coolant.
Got a new Battlax T30 Evo to go on the front but will wait for the spring to have that fitted, the old BT021 sill has lots of tread but the edges have feathered really badly but the strange thing is its the front or leading edge of the tread pattern that is raised, weird. Oh yeah and dropped the tyres pressures 10lbs for the winter.
what the fuck am I going to do now for the next 6 months :'(