I will come clean and state I got my full A1 license through taking a DAS course. I did however ride scooters in my youth (so wasn't unfamiliar to motorcycles).At no time did any of the Instructors through the "big bike" lessons, talk about blipping the throttle for smoother (+ mechanical wear reducing) gear changes.It's down as an advanced technique, primarily Sports bikes (on the race circuit), when decelerating rapidly, from high speeds, is a norm.In which case, why should it be necessary to "blip shift" under normal, public road riding/commuting circumstances?If you have physically slowed to the point you feel a gear down (or 2) is necessary, the engine has already slowed sufficiently, and the gear down wont affect the revs to any great extent. Hence a "regular" clutch in / change gear / SMOOTH clutch out, should be sufficient?..............perhaps I just don't ride fast enough
I am not a fast rider and use the mantra slow in fast out but it has never bothered me not blipping, however every day is a school day.
Counter steering as a rule isn't something that needs teaching. If you can ride a bike around a corner then you can counter steer?
QuoteI am not a fast rider and use the mantra slow in fast out but it has never bothered me not blipping, however every day is a school day. Sometimes I take it easy, other times I’m blasting along. I’d guess if I’m hard on the brakes then trailing the front brake into a corner whilst popping down a couple of gears at the same time, well if I didn’t, err, ‘blip’ the throttle, I’d possibly end up on my arse. I’ve always done it, it’s how you down change unless you are piddling along and then you don’t even need the clutch for down changes.Now this gets me wondering. Like most folks here I also have and drive a car. I’ve always driven manual cars, and yeah I do the same in the car, although yeah sometimes I’ll just let that clutch slip a lot cos heel toes is tricky and to be honest I suspect in race and proper supercars the pedals will be placed nice and close to facilitate heel toe. But is it the prevalence of automatics today, these fancy DSG boxes, is that why maybe folks are struggling to fully master manual gearing changing? Just a thought. QuoteCounter steering as a rule isn't something that needs teaching. If you can ride a bike around a corner then you can counter steer? Well yeah Dudeofrude, there is only one way to make a bike turn, and that is to counter steer. I just cannot believe that people are trained how to ride a bike on the road without being taught how to steer the bloody thing. One of the first things I’ll often ask a new biker “is do you know how to steer?” or “do you understand countersteering” Hey I’ve had the odd youngster that’s told me it’s bull shite, but most have listened, tried it and thanked me for the tip. Knowing how to steer and change direction at will and rapidly is an essential life saving skill.
I love my FZS 600, in my opinion it is one of the best all rounder bikes available, 147 ish MPH
Quote from: tommyardin on 14 September 2017, 10:34:46 pmI love my FZS 600, in my opinion it is one of the best all rounder bikes available, 147 ish MPHWeird how these Fazers get faster and faster as time goes by
The only thing have actually learned by reading and finding something new to me after many years of riding is clutchless upshifting, up untill a couple of years ago I had never heard of it but tryed it and its great. But on the subject of countersteering I had never actually really heard of it - or have but never bothered looking in to exactly what it was but then when I did look into it and tried it I thought "oh that" I never knew it was a thing that had a name, its just what I do unconsciously maybe since I was 3 years old an riding a tryke.So that aspect does not need teaching but perhaps a more conscious and physical input on the bars needs teaching and practicing for a more rapid emergency change of direction for new bikers.
! No longer availableA FZS 600 not hanging about.227 KPH at one point =141mph, again that is the speedo reading and not the true speed my guess would be 4 or 5 mph slower.
227 KPH at one point =141mph, again that is the speedo reading and not the true speed my guess would be 4 or 5 mph slower.
Valentino Rossi, Nicky Haden, Kenny Roberts, Bazzer Sheene, Casey Stoner, Carl Crutchlow, Guy Martin, Carl Fogarty, Giacomo Agostini and many other greats before and after them were ever heard so say 'finding out what a bike is capable of is willy waving.
Quote from: tommyardin on 15 September 2017, 04:54:38 pmValentino Rossi, Nicky Haden, Kenny Roberts, Bazzer Sheene, Casey Stoner, Carl Crutchlow, Guy Martin, Carl Fogarty, Giacomo Agostini and many other greats before and after them were ever heard so say 'finding out what a bike is capable of is willy waving. Have you ever noticed there is a very slight, maybe almost imperceptible difference between what they do for a living, and what you do?
Wanting to know what is possible is what got man to the moon and the bottom of the deepest ocean
Unfortunalty Tommy, man hasn't been to the bottom of the deepest ocean either, not the really deep stuff. But apart from that all ok. I for one have never maxed out my bike, its not really practical on road but oh that acceleration, now we all love that.
So doing high speeds on any roads involves a large amount of luck and blind trust in that you don't find a bad bit of tarmac or concrete that could really spoil your day.
Quote from: darrsi on 16 September 2017, 10:41:52 amSo doing high speeds on any roads involves a large amount of luck and blind trust in that you don't find a bad bit of tarmac or concrete that could really spoil your day.Hey Tommy, and have you seen the size of the potholes on the foccin moon?!