How many

[lew600fazer]

How many of us are now running the MT07/09 or Tracer or other MT09 based bikes?

[Hedgetrimmer]

Yeah, get yer own bleedin forum, splitters! 

[lew600fazer]

Swivel  Come on now  play nice . I know of at least 2 others on here. Trust me if I was still ableto man handlemy FZ1 I would have kept it. But the wee 09 is a cracking bit of fun .

[Val]

Yeah, get yer own bleedin forum, splitters! 

I was trying to stay covert, but Lew sold us  MT09 ere 

[locksmith]

MT-09's rule 

[Hedgetrimmer]

MT-09's rule 

No.2. As in...


Rule no.1 Nooooo pooftahs!
Rule no.2 No MT09s
Rule no.3 Nooooo pooftahs!
Rule no.4 No one is to be caught not drinking
Rule no.5 No MT07s
Rule no.6 There is no rule no. 6


Etc.

[steve 10562cc]

After an XJR13OOSP the FZ1 gen 2 is a light weight

[BBROWN1664]

I actually think teh MT-0 range are good Fazer successors. Maybe we should set up a sub-forum for them.

[Hedgetrimmer]

Here we go again    I have nothing (much  ) against MT owners who previously were here because they had Fazers sticking around for the banter etc. But if I were an MT owner, I'd want a separate forum for those bikes.


Here ya go:


http://mt09.motorcycle-talk.com/forum/cmps_index.php


There seem to be others too. So no need for sub-forums here.
I'm not interested exclusively in Fazers when it comes to bikes, so I am a member of a non-type-specific bike forum too. What's the difficulty?

[johnakay]

I'v got a tracer 700

[Dudeofrude]

After an XJR13OOSP the FZ1 gen 2 is a light weight

I dunno how people complain about the Fz1's weight anyway. It weighs 1kg less than my old 600 did 😂😂

[Dave48]

I have a foot in each camp! . Both excellent bikes-but different.

[GH600]

I tried an MT07  when I had my Versys 650 & I didn't think it was worth changing to the Yam. It was quicker & lighter but in the real world not a big enough reason to change . My 98 Fazer I find has a big fun factor about it , it's just a dam good all round bike, even good two up 

[Hedgetrimmer]

I have a foot in each camp! . Both excellent bikes-but different.

Indeed, an IL4 compared to a parallel twin I would've thought would be very different in character. Another reason I don't think the MT series has a place here. The MT10 perhaps more so as a replacement for the FZ1, using a retuned version of an R1 engine, as have all the litre Fazers - but it still ain't a Fazer!

[Dudeofrude]

I have a foot in each camp! . Both excellent bikes-but different.

Indeed, an IL4 compared to a parallel twin I would've thought would be very different in character. Another reason I don't think the MT series has a place here. The MT10 perhaps more so as a replacement for the FZ1, using a retuned version of an R1 engine, as have all the litre Fazers - but it still ain't a Fazer!

Unless your in the states then it's an fz10 and the others are fz09 and fz07 respectively 🤔

So they literally have an Fz6 - 07 - 8 - 09 and 10

That's certainly covering all bases haha

[Hedgetrimmer]

The Americans have never called their models Fazers though. Not even the FZS1000 gen 1, which was called FZ1. I used to have an FZ750, but that wasn't a Fazer either 

[redfox1]

I'v got a tracer 700

Does anybody know how the Tracer 700 stacks up against the fzs 600-is it any better?

[locksmith]

MT-09's rule 

No.2. As in...


Rule no.1 Nooooo pooftahs!
Rule no.2 No MT09s
Rule no.3 Nooooo pooftahs!
Rule no.4 No one is to be caught not drinking
Rule no.5 No MT07s
Rule no.6 There is no rule no. 6


Etc.

Agree with rules 1,3 and 5.
I'm under the influence of rule 4 as I speak!


7 mile walk with the dog incorporating 2 pubs.   hic.....

[Val]

I'v got a tracer 700

Does anybody know how the Tracer 700 stacks up against the fzs 600-is it any better?

Define better? I mean FZS 600 is a brilliant bike the IL4 engine is more fun then MT07 and MT09 because of the screaming sound, the carb smooth power delivery is definitely better then all MT range inlcuding MT10. And FZS600 has way more power 95hp vs 75hp for MT 700.

These are different bikes better for doing different things. To be honest I would never would have bought MT09 if there was FZS600 2017 model slightly lighter with the same engine and carb.

Think of it as MT 700 is Nissan Micra Estate, MT 09 is BMW M3 and FSZ600 is Lotus Elise 

[lew600fazer]

Here we go again    I have nothing (much  ) against MT owners who previously were here because they had Fazers sticking around for the banter etc. But if I were an MT owner, I'd want a separate forum for those bikes.


Yeah I am on that forum all it is shite.


Here ya go:


http://mt09.motorcycle-talk.com/forum/cmps_index.php


There seem to be others too. So no need for sub-forums here.
I'm not interested exclusively in Fazers when it comes to bikes, so I am a member of a non-type-specific bike forum too. What's the difficulty?

[Hedgetrimmer]

Yeah I am on that forum all it is shite.

How come? Is it that Fazer riders are just a better class of people? 

[pilninggas]

I have a foot in each camp! . Both excellent bikes-but different.

Indeed, an IL4 compared to a parallel twin I would've thought would be very different in character. Another reason I don't think the MT series has a place here. The MT10 perhaps more so as a replacement for the FZ1, using a retuned version of an R1 engine, as have all the litre Fazers - but it still ain't a Fazer!

For me the MT10 is the only bike that is very removed from the Fazer-family principles. The Fazers and MT03,07,09 and tracers are all do-anything bikes - it prolly why we like them. The MT10 is very much pitched at taking on big european sports muscle. As a Gen 2 thou owner, i wouldnt consider it a replacement. It's more like pure sports with no fairing.

[johnakay]

Does anybody know how the Tracer 700 stacks up against the fzs 600-is it any better?
[/size]you can't compare the two.2 different bikes altogether.
many a times  I've said if yamaha ever bring out another Fazer 600 just as good as the old fox eye..I would buy it.
so the nearest is the tracer 700 yes it its a twin.
I like the Tracer as much as the Fazer so I'm happy.
the fazer was/is a lot smoother more powerful and good on fuel.
Tracer has more torque at the lower end of revs which suit me fine. top speed no longer interest me.
I ride two up most of the time and get between 65/70 mpg.
the only thing I dont like is the fuel gauge start flashing and goes on count down at 180 miles .
fill her up at 190 miles on the clock only to find I can put 9.4 ltrs in still got 7.6 ltrs in.
which is annoying ,it would've been flashing at with 4 ltrs left in.
overall I'm happy and very pleased .
oh and I changed the front sprocket from 16 to 17 so now no longer looking for that illusive 7th gear

[Dave48]

Some further impressions from ownership...
Comfort: Tracer fine solo but a bit cramped 2 up although pillion pegs not as "extreme" as pure sports bikes,not as relaxing for pillion as Fazer which has more room & a better seat.
Overall finish: Will definitely require regular cleaning/applications of protective chemicals like ACF50 if you ride all year round-some of the fasteners are showing signs of discolouration @ 2000 miles use.
Havent needed to change front sprocket as built in gear position indicator tells me what the Fazer doesnt.
Fuel economy: 71mpg to date-I am not an exuberant rider these days!
Fuel warning light: Comes on far too soon.
Fitting of Kappa rear arms & plate: Really needed 3 hands for this job which required disconnecting indicator & rear no plate lamp leads under seat to then position mounting plate under rear "tray"-bit of a faff but looks tidy fitted.
Engine power: 74 bhp(quoted) is plenty for the chassis/suspension to cope with in standard form.Plenty of low down drive without revving the guts out of it.
Relaxed higher gear cruising but enough power to get past slow stuff without drama.
Value for money: I bought mine last autumn before the £600 price hike this year so £6345 OTR.
Accessories: I immediately fitted an R&G radiator protector then mushroom bobbins to swing arm for chain maintenance etc(There is no centre stand which is a shame). Have also fitted adjustable clutch/brake levers.
Am I pleased with the bike? Very much so but IT IS NOT A FAZER so dont really think direct comparisons in order.
It is an extremely good all rounder and has the "fun factor" for me so am more than happy with it.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 

For me the MT10 is the only bike that is very removed from the Fazer-family principles. The Fazers and MT03,07,09 and tracers are all do-anything bikes - it prolly why we like them. The MT10 is very much pitched at taking on big european sports muscle. As a Gen 1 thou owner, i wouldnt consider it a replacement. It's more like pure sports with no fairing.

Bought my FZS1000 new in 2004, and I was considering a new MT10 this year.   Got home improvements on my mind now.  Maybe buy the MT10 next year.
But yes, it is the evolution of the FZS1000.  The original FZS1000 took the R1 engine, retuned it for more mid-range and torque and stuck it in a everyday useable chassis/package. 
The Gen 2 became more sports or fun biased as has the MT10.  But they are still, ride all day, all-rounders.  Though I wonder if a GT Tracer (MT10, with a bigger tank, maybe a new softer chassis, half fairing and proper integrated full luggage options) is maybe on it’s way for those of us lusting after a 2018 FZS1000
Forum?  Remember the Dutch English Fazer Board?  Became Marion’s Fazer Pages or something before morphing into FOC-U.  Many thanks to all those who have been involved and run these sites for us.  Personally, I think while the evolution of the Fazer continues as the MT and Tracer series, sadly the evolution of Dutch-English-Marion-Foc-u seems to have ground to a halt.  The Fazer must have had one of the best web forums out there. 
I mean I looked at a couple of MT10 forums, and frankly they are pants – utter crap.