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Front sprocket change
« on: 31 May 2017, 06:35:22 pm »
HI All  :D


Recently had some noise coming from the chain/ front sprocket on my Fazer FZS600 2002. Removed the cover and looks like that sprocket needs to be replaced as some of it cracked (see pic attached). I want to buy sprocket, retainer and retainer nut online  but from the pics online shops looks like that sprocket got a different look. I am using that shop:  http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/02-03/


They have different types of sprockets and I am not sure which one is correct. They have less or added teeth
 
[size=78%]Can anyone help? [/size] :'(


Thanks
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #2 on: 31 May 2017, 07:46:08 pm »
Chill out!!
The sprocket is fine, some fazer have the sprocket encased in plastic to try and reduce noise, all that has happen is that some of the plastic has cracked and fallen off.
Mine is a lot worse and still works fine.
Save your self the money and remove any loose bits and carry on.
Only needs replacing if the teeth are becoming hooked which isn't clear in your pic but looks ok.
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #3 on: 31 May 2017, 07:52:18 pm »
Hard to say from your pic.

But if you do change the front sprocket and only the front sprocket, you need to be confident that there is little or no stretch in your chain, no tight spots etc. 

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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #4 on: 31 May 2017, 08:40:20 pm »
That front sprocket is fine, it still has one tooth left :lol

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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #5 on: 31 May 2017, 09:28:25 pm »

Chill out!!
The sprocket is fine, some fazer have the sprocket encased in plastic to try and reduce noise, all that has happen is that some of the plastic has cracked and fallen off.
Mine is a lot worse and still works fine.
Save your self the money and remove any loose bits and carry on.
Only needs replacing if the teeth are becoming hooked which isn't clear in your pic but looks ok.


Problem is that mine started to be noisy when riding slowly and I think is because the missing places on the sprocket case. It's really loud (hard to explain the type of noise)  :\ 
[size=78%]It's getting worse when leaning which could indicate wrong chain tension but I've adjusted it but it didn't cancel the noise.[/size]
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #6 on: 31 May 2017, 09:30:30 pm »
You can't can't just replace the front sprocket, with that much wear you'll need to change the chain and rear sprocket too.
This front sprocket
http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/02-03/picture/sprocket_front_-_jt/

This year sprocket
http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/02-03/picture/sprocket_front_-_jt/

And this chain
http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/02-03/picture/sprocket_front_-_jt/

Retainer and nut
http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/02-03/picture/sprocket_front_-_jt/



Hi Celticbiker


Thank you for reply and all the links, but all links are for the same front sprocket :-(




I think that it is time anyway to replace all of the above.  :'(


Thanks
Dawid

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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #7 on: 31 May 2017, 09:45:51 pm »
You can't can't just replace the front sprocket, with that much wear you'll need to change the chain and rear sprocket too.
This front sprocket
http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/02-03/picture/sprocket_front_-_jt/

This year sprocket
http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/02-03/picture/sprocket_front_-_jt/

And this chain
http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/02-03/picture/sprocket_front_-_jt/

Retainer and nut
http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/02-03/picture/sprocket_front_-_jt/



Hi Celticbiker


Thank you for reply and all the links, but all are to the same link of the front sprocket.


I think that it is time anyway to replace all of the above.  :'( 



Thanks
Dawid
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #8 on: 02 June 2017, 01:16:48 pm »
If you've adjusted the chain by moving the rear wheel you may have slightly put it in a different position.
So the noise "could" be the chain cutting a new path on the plastic chain guide?
Tends to sound worse when people upgrade to new heavier duty chains, it makes a buzzing/rubbing noise.
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #9 on: 02 June 2017, 04:23:33 pm »
If you've adjusted the chain by moving the rear wheel you may have slightly put it in a different position.
So the noise "could" be the chain cutting a new path on the plastic chain guide?
Tends to sound worse when people upgrade to new heavier duty chains, it makes a buzzing/rubbing noise.

Sorry, but this post is the most ignorant, dimwitted piece of 'advice' I've ever seen on a forum. What the hell are you talking about?
'New path on the chain guide' my arse.
Evidence of this?

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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #10 on: 02 June 2017, 06:53:42 pm »
If you've adjusted the chain by moving the rear wheel you may have slightly put it in a different position.
So the noise "could" be the chain cutting a new path on the plastic chain guide?
Tends to sound worse when people upgrade to new heavier duty chains, it makes a buzzing/rubbing noise.

Sorry, but this post is the most ignorant, dimwitted piece of 'advice' I've ever seen on a forum. What the hell are you talking about?
'New path on the chain guide' my arse.
Evidence of this?


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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #11 on: 02 June 2017, 07:06:35 pm »
HI All  :D


Recently had some noise coming from the chain/ front sprocket on my Fazer FZS600 2002. Removed the cover and looks like that sprocket needs to be replaced as some of it cracked (see pic attached). I want to buy sprocket, retainer and retainer nut online  but from the pics online shops looks like that sprocket got a different look. I am using that shop:  http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/02-03/


They have different types of sprockets and I am not sure which one is correct. They have less or added teeth
 
[size=78%]Can anyone help? [/size] :'(


Thanks
Dawid



Does all look rather clean and a bit too dry in the picture, how often do you oil or lube the chain?
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #12 on: 02 June 2017, 07:13:59 pm »
If you've adjusted the chain by moving the rear wheel you may have slightly put it in a different position.
So the noise "could" be the chain cutting a new path on the plastic chain guide?
Tends to sound worse when people upgrade to new heavier duty chains, it makes a buzzing/rubbing noise.

Sorry, but this post is the most ignorant, dimwitted piece of 'advice' I've ever seen on a forum. What the hell are you talking about?
'New path on the chain guide' my arse.
Evidence of this?


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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #13 on: 02 June 2017, 08:36:59 pm »
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #14 on: 02 June 2017, 08:49:21 pm »
didya check the sprocket lube before ya put de chain on coz the rear sprocket will make it noisy..ooops another bellend just replied. :'(
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #15 on: 03 June 2017, 09:23:56 am »
If you've adjusted the chain by moving the rear wheel you may have slightly put it in a different position.
So the noise "could" be the chain cutting a new path on the plastic chain guide?
Tends to sound worse when people upgrade to new heavier duty chains, it makes a buzzing/rubbing noise.

Sorry, but this post is the most ignorant, dimwitted piece of 'advice' I've ever seen on a forum. What the hell are you talking about?
'New path on the chain guide' my arse.
Evidence of this?


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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #16 on: 03 June 2017, 11:41:43 pm »
If you've adjusted the chain by moving the rear wheel you may have slightly put it in a different position.
So the noise "could" be the chain cutting a new path on the plastic chain guide?
Tends to sound worse when people upgrade to new heavier duty chains, it makes a buzzing/rubbing noise.

Sorry, but this post is the most ignorant, dimwitted piece of 'advice' I've ever seen on a forum. What the hell are you talking about?
'New path on the chain guide' my arse.
Evidence of this?
Its called a chain guide- I have no idea why its needed because its a piece of rubber that does not guide the chain - it just gets cut by the chain as it rubs past it, mine has.
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #17 on: 04 June 2017, 12:05:30 am »
If you've adjusted the chain by moving the rear wheel you may have slightly put it in a different position.
So the noise "could" be the chain cutting a new path on the plastic chain guide?
Tends to sound worse when people upgrade to new heavier duty chains, it makes a buzzing/rubbing noise.

Sorry, but this post is the most ignorant, dimwitted piece of 'advice' I've ever seen on a forum. What the hell are you talking about?
'New path on the chain guide' my arse.
Evidence of this?
Its called a chain guide- I have no idea why its needed because its a piece of rubber that does not guide the chain - it just gets cut by the chain as it rubs past it, mine has.
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It's just the name of the part.
And if you check it, you'll notice the chain wears a path, quite simple really.
If you upset the chain by moving the rear wheelby a fraction of a millimetre it will rub against the sides creating a new path, and a bit of noise again until bedded in.
Very common if you upgrade from an OEM to a D.I.D. for example.
Been there, done that, as have many others on here.  :)
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #18 on: 04 June 2017, 01:04:23 am »
If you've adjusted the chain by moving the rear wheel you may have slightly put it in a different position.
So the noise "could" be the chain cutting a new path on the plastic chain guide?
Tends to sound worse when people upgrade to new heavier duty chains, it makes a buzzing/rubbing noise.

Sorry, but this post is the most ignorant, dimwitted piece of 'advice' I've ever seen on a forum. What the hell are you talking about?
'New path on the chain guide' my arse.
Evidence of this?
Its called a chain guide- I have no idea why its needed because its a piece of rubber that does not guide the chain - it just gets cut by the chain as it rubs past it, mine has.
[/quote


It's just the name of the part.
And if you check it, you'll notice the chain wears a path, quite simple really.
If you upset the chain by moving the rear wheelby a fraction of a millimetre it will rub against the sides creating a new path, and a bit of noise again until bedded in.
Very common if you upgrade from an OEM to a D.I.D. for example.
Been there, done that, as have many others on here.  :)
Yep thats what I meant when I said  "it just gets cut by the chain as it rubs past it, mine has."
Yes I have a grove cut into it and can well imagine it would make a noise cutting a new path
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #19 on: 04 June 2017, 10:34:27 am »
If you've adjusted the chain by moving the rear wheel you may have slightly put it in a different position.
So the noise "could" be the chain cutting a new path on the plastic chain guide?
Tends to sound worse when people upgrade to new heavier duty chains, it makes a buzzing/rubbing noise.

Sorry, but this post is the most ignorant, dimwitted piece of 'advice' I've ever seen on a forum. What the hell are you talking about?
'New path on the chain guide' my arse.
Evidence of this?
Its called a chain guide- I have no idea why its needed because its a piece of rubber that does not guide the chain - it just gets cut by the chain as it rubs past it, mine has.


Metal could create sparks towards the engine i s'pose, so not entirely ideal if you were to have a fuel leak, unless you dig that Ghost Rider look.  :lol
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #20 on: 04 June 2017, 11:06:46 am »
I think of it as a swing arm protector. Without it the chain would wear away the top/bottom surface of swing arm-its just Japanese not having exactly right word for it!

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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #21 on: 04 June 2017, 11:24:26 am »
I think of it as a swing arm protector. Without it the chain would wear away the top/bottom surface of swing arm-its just Japanese not having exactly right word for it!


"Rubbery"  :lol
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #22 on: 04 June 2017, 11:43:34 am »
I dont know of anyone on here who has had to replace a completely worn one, your chain would have to be so slack as to wear through it that you would have other problems, like it jumping off
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #23 on: 08 June 2017, 10:33:41 am »
If you've adjusted the chain by moving the rear wheel you may have slightly put it in a different position.
So the noise "could" be the chain cutting a new path on the plastic chain guide?
Tends to sound worse when people upgrade to new heavier duty chains, it makes a buzzing/rubbing noise.

If its cutting a new path, its too tight.
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Re: Front sprocket change
« Reply #24 on: 08 June 2017, 11:53:12 am »
If you've adjusted the chain by moving the rear wheel you may have slightly put it in a different position.
So the noise "could" be the chain cutting a new path on the plastic chain guide?
Tends to sound worse when people upgrade to new heavier duty chains, it makes a buzzing/rubbing noise.

If its cutting a new path, its too tight.

Or a heavier than standard replacement chain, they need a bit of bedding in when first fitting, which is what causes the loud noise. Had it myself, and others on here have had it as well before, it's nothing new.
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