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Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« on: 20 April 2017, 05:47:26 PM »
Ok so i almost kicked the garage door off earlier, mechanics at my local have tightened up the bolts that hold the brake fluid cap/diaphram on so tight that im close to stripping them, massively infuriating as all i want to do is top up the fluid (new discs/pads/fluids so im guessingvtheyvha e bedded in now)
Any ideas? Or am i just huba have to pop down and get them to loosen them off so i can top it up and replace the old bolts?

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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #1 on: 20 April 2017, 06:24:46 PM »
Brake fluid is proper corrosive. They are probably 'rusted' in. Order some replacement screws and buy some reverse drill bit / stud extractors. I got some from b&q I think when I had to get mine out.
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #2 on: 20 April 2017, 06:43:12 PM »
They have only been removed and put back in the past 2 weeks so i doubt they are rusted solid, just tightened up way too tight, particulally when these particular bolts are notoriously soft,  i have a electric hand held i can get from work so i might try edging them out on the lowest setting before i go back to the garage

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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #3 on: 20 April 2017, 06:44:46 PM »
I've started them with a punch in the past. Get someone to hold the bars and tap the outer edge of the screw. Chuck them in the bin and replace with countersunk Allen screws
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #4 on: 20 April 2017, 06:49:26 PM »
Swapped mine for stainless countersunk allen bolts the other week, cost me 3 quid off ebay
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #5 on: 20 April 2017, 06:52:28 PM »
I use an impact screwdriver quite a bit on my bike. It has a screwdriver (interchangeable) head and rotates either way when you whack it with a hammer.


Steel screws commonly fuse to aluminium alloy parts.
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #6 on: 20 April 2017, 07:06:53 PM »
Fo you have a link for that? And bolt size if handy? T

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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #9 on: 20 April 2017, 07:31:04 PM »
These extractors got mine out when they were really stuck and rounded:
http://www.diy.com/departments/ptx-mixed-damaged-screw-remover-set-54mm-5-pieces/702452_BQ.prd
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #10 on: 20 April 2017, 08:07:08 PM »
£3.00 for two screws, you have more money than sense, those focers are about 20p each.

Find a supplier on ebay etc and measure some fasteners on the bike you'd like to change (screen bolts for example would probably be M5 x 20mm) then email a list of fasteners, type and dimensions to said supplier and see what price he comes up with.

Copy and paste the email to several sellers to get the best price

Just don't search for bike specific kits, you'll always pay through the nose for them
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #11 on: 20 April 2017, 08:12:29 PM »
£3.00 for two screws, you have more money than sense, those focers are about 20p each.
Absolutely !!
We have a supplier of stainless steel fittings near here and those screws would undoubtedly be about 10p each.
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #12 on: 20 April 2017, 08:22:18 PM »
Reservoir screws are M4 x 12mm.

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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #13 on: 20 April 2017, 09:19:52 PM »
£3.00 for two screws, you have more money than sense, those focers are about 20p each.
Absolutely !!
We have a supplier of stainless steel fittings near here and those screws would undoubtedly be about 10p each.


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Just google nut and bolt suppliers near you, I use a local place near me for all replacement bolts, nuts, washers etc. They are  cheaper than ebay and quicker, even had 7mm cap heads in stock years ago when I rebuilt the brakes on my old cbx550.

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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #14 on: 20 April 2017, 09:36:41 PM »
Screwfix are pretty good on packs of screws, pack of M6 x 20mm x 50 button head for £3.59

Thats cheaper than many advertised on ebay and local to most peeps
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #15 on: 21 April 2017, 12:00:28 AM »
Haha, measure, google, email, shop around... to save myself a couple of quid. What do you think my time is worth?! :-P
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #16 on: 21 April 2017, 06:25:46 AM »
Haha, measure, google, email, shop around... to save myself a couple of quid. What do you think my time is worth?! :-P

I'd say time spent looking after the bike, servicing or replacing screws etc is priceless.

If the OP had done whatever work the shop did for him we wouldn't be having this conversation
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #17 on: 21 April 2017, 08:13:22 AM »
Time spent servicing the bike is priceless. (perhaps good value is a better word), especially if you enjoy it.


but my time is also priceless (or £7.50 if you assume I get paid minimum wage). I do place a lot of value on my time... yet it's kind of funny how I don't mind going to the trouble of doing internet searches and posting links to help someone.. even to have someone turn around and tell me I have more money than sense. Oh well.
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #19 on: 21 April 2017, 09:34:34 AM »
Its funny with costs, the Mrs looking at grapefruits in Asda and had to have a long think about weather to buy them cause they are 25p more expensive than aldi.
I too sometimes cant be arsed to go to my local fixings supplier - struggle to park - get wet - find that they are shut for lunch-dont have the one I need, so just order off ebay and get the post man to bring them to me.
Also I have been in my local fixing supplier and its almost embarrassing fr me and a great annoyance for him when I spend 20p on 4 screws and he says "Just take em " I then feel guilty and drop £1 in the charity tin on the counter, so by the time I have added my petrol costs I may as well got them off ebay.       
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #20 on: 21 April 2017, 09:59:28 AM »
Time spent servicing the bike is priceless. (perhaps good value is a better word), especially if you enjoy it.


but my time is also priceless (or £7.50 if you assume I get paid minimum wage). I do place a lot of value on my time... yet it's kind of funny how I don't mind going to the trouble of doing internet searches and posting links to help someone.. even to have someone turn around and tell me I have more money than sense. Oh well.
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I wasn't having a pop, just thought £3 for a couple of screws was a little expensive considering their real value. I'm lucky in that I don't need to buy to many stock fasteners as I have access to them at work, well its surprising how many M6/5's my machine needs sometimes..................... :D
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #21 on: 21 April 2017, 10:14:01 AM »
No worries mate!  ;) :D
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #22 on: 21 April 2017, 10:56:45 AM »

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-Front-Brake-Cylinder-Reservoir-Lid-Cap-Screws-Stainless-/151432270518?nav=SEARCH
  Maybe it's just me but pozidrive heads on machine screws seems wrong. Pozidrive heads are for wood screws. Vehicle cross head screws are supposed to be Philips heads aren't they? Like I say, maybe it's just me.
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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #23 on: 21 April 2017, 11:52:22 AM »
It is common for the fluid level to drop as new pass and brakes settle in though right?

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Re: Raging at soft brake resevoir screws
« Reply #24 on: 21 April 2017, 12:15:05 PM »
It is common for the fluid level to drop as new pass and brakes settle in though right?

Well not really,when new pads are fitted the pistons in the calipers have to be pushed back in to receive the new thicker pads when the calipers are refitted the brakes are operated to push the pistons back out & brake fluid level will drop this should be topped up if required,then the fluid level should only drop with pad wear very very slowly.       
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