Down the pub - the thread about nothing and everything

[VNA - BMW Wank]

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe has said one of the reasons the police failed to control the violence during a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville was because militia members at the rally were armed with "better equipment" than the state police themselves.
“It’s easy to criticise, but I can tell you this, 80 per cent of the people here had semiautomatic weapons," Mr McAuliffe said.
Several members of militia groups, seen wearing tactical gear and carrying assault rifles, were marching from the early morning to Emancipation Park where the rally was supposed to take place to protest the removal of a statue of Civil War Confederate General Robert E Lee.



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/virginia-governor-terry-mcauliffe-charlottesville-white-supremacist-group-militia-better-equipment-a7893151.html

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Fuck Yeah!

[fazersharp]

So 80% were carrying submachine guns and yet --------
 Brian Moran, Virginia’s secretary of public safety and homeland security, said he saw from a post at a downtown bank that there were sporadic fights until people began throwing water bottles, smoke bombs, and using pepper spray. And that's from the link you kindly provided

Where where all the bullets from the machine guns in your link.

Maybe it's the Langoustines -- did I mention the Langoustines  - maybe its those.     

[VNA - BMW Wank]

[VNA - BMW Wank]

[darrsi]

Seems to me like you're getting off on violent videos.

[steve 10562cc]

VNA it takes 2 opposing sides to cause a punch up. I don't condone or like what the Nazis, kk stand for, my granddad and uncle spent 5years fighting them, both wounded, 1 at Dunkirk the other in a raid on Norway. America like this country has freedom of speech that is for everyone not just the what certain section of society believe to be right. if you go back through history the commis, left wing have nothing to be proud of. Stalin and his commis committed atrocities equal to the Nazis ask some of the polish people taken prisoners. 

[fazersharp]

VNA it takes 2 opposing sides to cause a punch up. I don't condone or like what the Nazis, kk stand for, my granddad and uncle spent 5years fighting them,

I am even closer than that as it was my Dad that fought in WW2, his medals hang on my wall.

[Robbie8666]

did any one else watch new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, arrive into Portsmouth this morning?
was impressive to watch her fro, top of Portsdown Hill!

[darrsi]

did any one else watch new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, arrive into Portsmouth this morning?
was impressive to watch her fro, top of Portsdown Hill!

They are an incredible looking piece of kit when you see them in person.
I was in Malta years ago and the U.S. aircraft carrier J.F.K. docked while I was there, then 3000 navy crew took over the town for 3 days getting absolutely hammered on booze.

[Robbie8666]

did any one else watch new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, arrive into Portsmouth this morning?
was impressive to watch her fro, top of Portsdown Hill!

They are an incredible looking piece of kit when you see them in person.
I was in Malta years ago and the U.S. aircraft carrier J.F.K. docked while I was there, then 3000 navy crew took over the town for 3 days getting absolutely hammered on booze.

ahh Valletta  yeah had a few runs ashore there!! used to make the pilgrimage to "the last Drop inn", have raise a tot to Ollie Read who spent his last few hours drinking there with matelots & booties...

[darrsi]

did any one else watch new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, arrive into Portsmouth this morning?
was impressive to watch her fro, top of Portsdown Hill!

They are an incredible looking piece of kit when you see them in person.
I was in Malta years ago and the U.S. aircraft carrier J.F.K. docked while I was there, then 3000 navy crew took over the town for 3 days getting absolutely hammered on booze.

ahh Valletta  yeah had a few runs ashore there!! used to make the pilgrimage to "the last Drop inn", have raise a tot to Ollie Read who spent his last few hours drinking there with matelots & booties...

Yep, i spent a couple of evenings in there too, a tiny little bar that's like a shrine to him.
Funnily enough i worked on set of Gladiator too, which was why he was there.

[YamFazFan]

Just of interest, do you get to meet a lot of the film stars in your work darrsi?.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 

America like this country has freedom of speech that is for everyone not just the what certain section of society believe to be right.

That’s an interesting statement Steve.  America has long had an issue with freedom of speech.  Ultimately America has to a large degree had difficulty in understanding freedom of speech.  In America it often seems that freedom of speech is a right to spout any old pish, whatever you fancy, even if you just made it up five minutes ago, about anything and everything. 



In the UK, on the whole people have understood that freedom of speech comes with a condition.  That condition is that you will be held to account for what you say.  So, no you can’t just make stuff up and pass it off as fact, as others have a right to question you and even stop you from saying what you are saying if it has no basis in reality or fact, and in particular, or for example, if your bollocks is an incitement to harm others.

as I said the left and the right are just as bad as each other when it comes to 2017 violence

This isn’t about right and left.  It’s about right and wrong.  The counter protesters were ordinary people from all backgrounds and all political views who do not want fascists gathering in their town and forcing their evil will upon them.


Fazersharp, I don’t know if Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe is wholly correct in stating that 80% were carrying semiautomatic weapons (not as you state submachine guns) but if you look at the news clips and youtube feeds you’ll see no end of facists with guns and yes some are holding assault rifles. 



So yeah, while the police held back, ordinary people fought back with, as you say, water bottles, smoke bombs and pepper spray.  While you, Fazersharp and Steve, wish to appease the Nazi Fascists, despite in fact having family members who fought them, the ordinary people of Charlottesville drove them out. 



Meanwhile pretty much the whole world is aghast at President Donald Trump’s continuing appeasement of Nazi Facism.   



So I stand by my post 114, and I can assure you that I would not allow white supremacists, Nazi’s or fascists  the pleasure of freedom of assembly or speech in my town.  With freedom of speech comes responsibility.

[darrsi]

Just of interest, do you get to meet a lot of the film stars in your work darrsi?.

Seen plenty but i tend not to take too much notice of them to be honest, they're at work just like me.
The more famous they are the more people they tend to have around them anyway.
I tend not to visit sets much at all these days as i'm way too busy at work, but we still get the odd few pop in for artist or make-up tests as we have a lot of rooms where crews spend days or weeks testing our equipment before heading out to start shooting.

[tommyardin]

did any one else watch new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, arrive into Portsmouth this morning?
was impressive to watch her fro, top of Portsdown Hill!

Was not there to see the new carrier come into Pompey this morning, but, was certainly there this evening Munching on a 'Mick's Monster Burger'

[celticdog]

did any one else watch new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, arrive into Portsmouth this morning?
was impressive to watch her fro, top of Portsdown Hill!

Was not there to see the new carrier come into Pompey this morning, but, was certainly there this evening Munching on a 'Mick's Monster Burger'

You know I've never been to Pompey. Dinner and beers at the Fawcett Inn, It's on my to do list.

[steve 10562cc]

VNA thought I made it quite clear I do not condone or like Nazis or KKK in my previous post or any other group that tries to force their views on other people.

[red98]

did any one else watch new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, arrive into Portsmouth this morning?
was impressive to watch her fro, top of Portsdown Hill!

went down yesterday with my son to have a look , stopped at portsdown and spotted it in the harbour , best way to see it is via a harbour tour ,£8 and worth every penny , also , a few weeks back went to see uss george h w bush when at stokes bay off gosport ,well worth a visit foccers   

[slappy]

did any one else watch new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, arrive into Portsmouth this morning?
was impressive to watch her fro, top of Portsdown Hill!

and spotted it in the harbour ,

Bit hard to miss

[YamFazFan]

Some views of HMS Queen Elizabeth that I took on Saturday (9/9/17).

1) From The Spinnaker viewing tower.

2) From the upper deck of HMS Victory.

3) and 4) From the harbour tour boat.

[red98]

Great pics YFF.....great view from the spiniker   

[DILLIGAFF]

and if God made everything, then who made God???

[Robbie8666]

and if God made everything, then who made God???

God knows!!