Stubborn Oil Filter

[Tubz1983]

Drained the old oil today, however the filter does not want to budge AT ALL. Any tips? How important is.changing the filter?
Ive put some wd40 round tye edges to see if that free anything up

[Bretty]

Manual says 1 filter change for every 2 oil changes. But I change it everytime.

It can be an foccer to get off anyway, even if only put on finger tight with a lube oring. I give mine a good squirt of penetrating fluid with a wiggle the day before trying to get it off. One you break the rubber seal all round it usually comes off quite easily.

[darrsi]

Always resorted to using an oil filter chain wrench. They're only a few quid but an invaluable bit of kit.


When you eventually get the filter off, you need to smear the rubber seal with oil on the new one then just do it up by hand as much as you can, they really don't need to be wrenched on tightly.


And yeah, they do an important job so they do need changing, especially if you don't know when it was last done.
You can get away with replacing it every 2 oil changes but to be honest because they're so cheap you may as well do it each time.

[Tubz1983]

Hmmm i did see the chain wrenches.... Il go back to the garage in a bit and see if i can budge it

[fazersharp]

Hmmm i did see the chain wrenches.... Il go back to the garage in a bit and see if i can budge it

I use a oil filter spanner that attaches to a socket set like this (random internet grab for the picture) https://www.motorcycleparts-hornig.com/BMW-S-1000-RR/Spares/Oil-filter-spanner-Wrench-size-74-mm.html

[Tubz1983]

That looks like a blood good idea actually!

[HarryHornby]

BIG screwdriver smashed through the filter and give it some beans turning wise.....works every time :-)

[Tubz1983]

Smashed through the top end of it? Sideways on?

[fazed]

Sideways so it acts as a lever to rotate it, that's the way I've had to do it!

[fazersharp]

That looks like a blood good idea actually!

You have to fiddle it from the side behind the downpipes and slide it on then with a short extension on your socket poke that through the middle of the pipes and loosen only then draw out the socket and take the wrench off the filter and carry on undoing with your hands / fingertips ------------ expect to spill it all over your pipes underneath ---- and then the floor.   

[mtread]

That looks like a blood good idea actually!
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[/size]You have to fiddle it from the side behind the downpipes and slide it on then with a short extension on your socket poke that through the middle of the pipes and loosen only then draw out the socket and take the wrench off the filter and carry on undoing with your hands / fingertips ------------ expect to spill it all over your pipes underneath ---- and then the floor.  [/size]

That's what I've got, and how I do it. Make sure you get the right size spanner for the flats on the filter. I've got two different spanners for 2 different filters !

[Frosties]

Sometimes a screwdriver driven through the side works..and sometimes it rips the shit out of the filter. Marigold gloves are worth a go if the filter is cleaned first - seriously.

[His Dudeness]

try a chain wrench before a screwdriver.

[Graham53]

Hmmm i did see the chain wrenches.... Il go back to the garage in a bit and see if i can budge it

I use a oil filter spanner that attaches to a socket set like this (random internet grab for the picture) https://www.motorcycleparts-hornig.com/BMW-S-1000-RR/Spares/Oil-filter-spanner-Wrench-size-74-mm.html

I got one of those ages ago , does the job every time 👍🏻
And if the screwdriver doesn't work cos oil filters are only made of thin metal .. you're focced

[darrsi]

try a chain wrench before a screwdriver.

I deliberately never mentioned the screwdriver trick simply because of the carnage and mess it can cause if it goes wrong. 
 

[crickleymal]

I've got one of those rubber strap thingies (no space for it on this bike), one of those cup things that fazersharp mentioned but my favourite is this https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-cht719-two-way-three-jaw-oil-filter-wre/. Works like a charm.

[Jamieg285]

I use one of these http://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/halfords-advanced-adjustable-oil-filter-remover

Fits a range of sizes and the legs tighten their grip as you turn it.  Never had a problem getting a filter off with it.

[Jules-C]

And if the screwdriver doesn't work cos oil filters are only made of thin metal .. you're focced

Once had the screwdriver trick not work after chain and belt wrenches just crushed the casing.  If you are VERY careful you can cut the filter baseplate into pieces without damaging the mating surface on the crankcase but it's not something I would recommend. 

Still had a job getting the final piece of the baseplate off the thread.  I think the thread had been damaged by an earlier attempt to screwdriver it off.

Normally use K&N filters now with nice 17mm nut on them

[daviee]

I use one of these http://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/halfords-advanced-adjustable-oil-filter-remover

Fits a range of sizes and the legs tighten their grip as you turn it.  Never had a problem getting a filter off with it.

is  their enough room for one of those on a fazer its  pretty tight for space in their

[darrsi]

And if the screwdriver doesn't work cos oil filters are only made of thin metal .. you're focced

Once had the screwdriver trick not work after chain and belt wrenches just crushed the casing.  If you are VERY careful you can cut the filter baseplate into pieces without damaging the mating surface on the crankcase but it's not something I would recommend. 

Still had a job getting the final piece of the baseplate off the thread.  I think the thread had been damaged by an earlier attempt to screwdriver it off.

Normally use K&N filters now with nice 17mm nut on them

Used to think the K&N oil filters were good until i found that the nut part was covered in plastic and didn't fit any size socket.
Back to the trusted and reliable chain wrench again.

[Tubz1983]

Thanks for the tips guys, the WD40 seem to do the trick! The bastard is off and new oil in, as well as a coolant top up.
For the rest of the week we have front brake service and looking into my clutch cable issues. Fun times ahead

[mtread]

Darrsi, you are taking the shrink wrap plastic off the filter before you fit it, aren't you ;-)

[Jamieg285]

I use one of these http://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/halfords-advanced-adjustable-oil-filter-remover

Fits a range of sizes and the legs tighten their grip as you turn it.  Never had a problem getting a filter off with it.

is  their enough room for one of those on a fazer its  pretty tight for space in their

Yes, it does fit.  You have to wiggle it on from the side, then attach the wratchet via an extension piece. 

[celticdog]

I try not to over tighten the oil filter, I've been lucky and managed to get it off without the aid of tools. Sometimes a good hand job is all you need. 

[daviee]

I use one of these http://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/halfords-advanced-adjustable-oil-filter-remover

Fits a range of sizes and the legs tighten their grip as you turn it.  Never had a problem getting a filter off with it.

is  their enough room for one of those on a fazer its  pretty tight for space in their

Yes, it does fit.  You have to wiggle it on from the side, then attach the wratchet via an extension piece.

cheers