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MT10 Vs FULL MONTY'd Gen 1
« on: 14 August 2016, 12:50:20 am »
 So, the question I suspect we are all dying to know.... What's fastest, the MT10 or a sorted gen 1.
I have my own opinion but would be interested to hear all yours.
 
The trouble with any drag race is, you've both got to get similar good starts and you've both got to know how to get the most performance out of a particular bike. ie, knowing when to change gear for maximum acceleration. Too many variables imo  when you have two different riders.
 
This outcome can't be decided over one race  which I've already had hence the reason I'm not going to reveal the outcome until a few more runs have been made.
Obviously this will be done away from public roads  and the only things in danger are me, my brother, the ozone and a few bugs  :lol

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Re: MT10 Vs FULL MONTY'd Gen 1
« Reply #1 on: 14 August 2016, 01:05:26 am »
Oh, you utter tease. I'm dying to know.


I'll go with the MT-10 for the drag race because I suspect it's lower geared and will rev out quicker, but I bet the FZS has a higher top speed as the MT-10 is limited to 152 ish, judging by the magazine tests. I bet the MT-10 would cream the FZS on track though.


Are you doing roll-ons as well?

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Re: MT10 Vs FULL MONTY'd Gen 1
« Reply #2 on: 14 August 2016, 01:15:55 am »



Are you doing roll-ons as well?

Will do now you've mentioned it, have been a bit too exited to think too methodically up to now.  :lol
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Re: MT10 Vs FULL MONTY'd Gen 1
« Reply #3 on: 14 August 2016, 11:01:33 am »
Interesting one ,  how much does each bike weigh, you can shave weight of the gen1, what's the rear wheel bhp of the mt10, full monty gen 1 should be in the high 130s or low 140s
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Re: MT10 Vs FULL MONTY'd Gen 1
« Reply #4 on: 14 August 2016, 04:57:00 pm »
I need to know. When is the next episode?

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Re: MT10 Vs FULL MONTY'd Gen 1
« Reply #5 on: 15 August 2016, 02:40:56 pm »
MT10 in acceleration for certain - it's putting out what, 20hp over an FZS? Top speed I would imagine they won't be dissimilar to be honest

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Re: MT10 Vs FULL MONTY'd Gen 1
« Reply #6 on: 15 August 2016, 06:27:42 pm »
Not sure what the rear wheel bhp is on a mt10, full Monty gen 1 , some get in the 140 some hight 130
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Re: MT10 Vs FULL MONTY'd Gen 1
« Reply #7 on: 15 August 2016, 06:51:17 pm »
I think I read a while back that the quoted power output on the MT10 was 160. This would be measured at the crank I would have thought, so a ballpark loss off 10% would make the MT10 around 145ish at the rear wheel. If this guesstimate is about right, then on paper there might not be much in it. Got to go for the new one in a drag race though. Can't wait for the outcome.
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Re: MT10 Vs FULL MONTY'd Gen 1
« Reply #8 on: 15 August 2016, 07:23:47 pm »
Rode them back to back today and there's no doubt the MT10 feels faster. It pulls harder lower down the rev range and between 6-7K revs it feels like a tuned two stroke hitting its power band.
On paper it's more powerful and lighter so it should do, but.......This is what happened the other day.......
 
 
With me riding the Fazer I came up behind my brother on the MT10 ....And we both pinned it from about 30 MPH
The Fazer monster'd it  :eek
 
Now, the thing is, I've been riding the Fazer for 5 years and know how to get the most out of it.
The MT will just wheelie off the throttle in the first 3 gears which if you're not prepared for it will see you backing off, so to truly launch it you have to get your weight over the front.
My brother reckons he was pinning it and was playing catch up but from my experience even a 600 can tear off leaving a thou playing catch up if it gets the jump on it which is why I think this was inconclusive and a dedicated comparison is needed.
 
I agree with the comment though about the Fazer having a greater top speed but for sheer fun factor the MT10 not only wipes the floor with it but also the new R1 as you can see from the picture, there's no doubt who's got the biggest grin. :)
 
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Re: MT10 Vs FULL MONTY'd Gen 1
« Reply #9 on: 15 August 2016, 08:15:05 pm »
Interesting. It's got a very short wheelbase, same as an MT-07. Mind, the Gen 1 will whip the wheel up in second just on a roll on too.


As for the MT-10/R1, well... I had an amusing moment last week. I was pootling into work, and a hundred yards after leaving some traffic lights I heard this MotoGP sound and this blue R1 came past me on the back wheel and he kept it perfectly balanced and rock steady, front wheel 5 foot off the deck, for the next 300 yards. Absolutely perfect control. He was wearing combats, trainers and is almost certainly going to experience gravel rash or the biggest bollocking from the police of his life one day! He wasn't that great through traffic...


But R1s can wheelie too!


And god it sounded awesome on an open pipe.

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Re: MT10 Vs FULL MONTY'd Gen 1
« Reply #10 on: 15 August 2016, 08:47:29 pm »
Of course they can Ayjay  :)   I just thought the  picture summed up what the MT10 was all about compared to a serious racing machine like the R1 or any other sportsbike.

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Re: MT10 Vs FULL MONTY'd Gen 1
« Reply #11 on: 15 August 2016, 08:50:03 pm »
Not bad for a bike that was discontinued in 2005, eh? :D

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Re: MT10 Vs FULL MONTY'd Gen 1
« Reply #12 on: 15 August 2016, 09:13:39 pm »
Not bad for a bike that was discontinued in 2005, eh? :D


Yer darn tootin'. And probably designed in 1999, which is even more amazing.

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Re: MT10 Vs FULL MONTY'd Gen 1
« Reply #13 on: 15 August 2016, 11:13:29 pm »
Fast bikes put their one with an SP exhaust on a dyno and it gave 143hp at the rear wheel. 5-6 hp increase over standard.
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