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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #525 on: 27 August 2012, 09:17:00 pm »
thanks you two  :) ......i know i need to aim for 240hg , but not sure of the reason why  :\ ....are all bikes set to this standard or do they vary.....no mention in haynes book of lies  :rolleyes
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #526 on: 27 August 2012, 09:26:23 pm »
not sure !..but i would imagine it varies from engine to engine!! ,diff cc,s  etc.. mabe that number you been given is a ................Factory....setting!!!!... ;) who knows??
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #527 on: 27 August 2012, 09:37:42 pm »
just serched pilot screw on here and found a post by GNASHER that ive read before and then forgot about  :\ .....topic title,RUNNING PROBLEMS / TPS ISSUE .lots of info here and easy to understand, THANKS GNASHER  8) . i need to pull 230-250 mm at 1150-1250 rpm,and must have pilot screws set correctly for balancing  ;) .... well worth reading this post  :D
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« Reply #528 on: 27 August 2012, 09:42:42 pm »
that sounds spot on then!!! theres your 240hg..and at idle speed !!! does sound like factory setting after all?....wasn,t there mention of a maximum discrepancy between readings?? ;) cant find my notes?..but think it was bt ...10% between cyls max!!
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #529 on: 27 August 2012, 09:52:56 pm »
that sounds spot on then!!! theres your 240hg..and at idle speed !!! does sound like factory setting after all?....wasn,t there mention of a maximum discrepancy between readings?? ;) cant find my notes?..but think it was bt ...10% between cyls max!!


reading my scribbles it is indeed 10 between cylinders  :D [size=78%]......10 what i dont know [/size] :o [size=78%].....will find my gauges tomorrow,they might give me a clue. [/size] ;)
 looks like i will have to alter my pilot screws to 2 turns out for the balancing  :\ [size=78%].....anyone done this with carbs on the bike ? not a lot of room in there [/size] :)
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #530 on: 27 August 2012, 09:56:23 pm »
i would think thats 10mm hg on your scale red!!....i would still try the settings you been given first mate?....just may be good!!!!!ps, if you set all your carbs the same,ie 2/2 1/4..or even 2 1/2...i would leave them at that and balance them you could allways do fine tweeks later if needed?.....got to be nearer than what you had b4?...ie 4turns out!!!!!.....i think you will struggle trying to adjust them in situ???
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #531 on: 27 August 2012, 10:14:28 pm »
i would think thats 10mm hg on your scale red!!....i would still try the settings you been given first mate?....just may be good!!!!!ps, if you set all your carbs the same,ie 2/2 1/4..or even 2 1/2...i would leave them at that and balance them you could allways do fine tweeks later if needed?.....got to be nearer than what you had b4?...ie 4turns out!!!!!.....i think you will struggle trying to adjust them in situ???


yeh think your right there mate  ;) ....will look tomorrow after work........glad i done the shims at the same time  ;) very ,very quite now  :D
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #532 on: 28 August 2012, 08:24:51 pm »
I managed to set 3 out of 4 screws ok but will need to remove the starter motor to set the 4th so I've as yet not done it. I've added it to my to do list for winter :)
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #533 on: 28 August 2012, 08:47:44 pm »
I managed to set 3 out of 4 screws ok but will need to remove the starter motor to set the 4th so I've as yet not done it. I've added it to my to do list for winter :)
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had a look myself tonight  :) and like you ill take the starter out to reset them  ;) ........how many turns have you set yours to  :)
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #534 on: 28 August 2012, 08:55:14 pm »
had to cut the front hedge this evening as swmbo was getting a bit frosty...so less time in the garage...but i did manage to put the coolant in and sort out my carb balancing gauges......will need to set mixture screws to standard for test,4 turns out at moment :eek  been like that for the last 10 years that i know of  ;)  so will set them to 2 1/2 slightly richer than standard  ;) 
 the easiest way to reset them seams to be to take the starter out and use a small flat bladed screwdriver  :)  will see if i can do that tomorrow  :D
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« Reply #535 on: 28 August 2012, 08:57:32 pm »
no no no............................leave the starter motor alone. :rolleyes  get yerself one of those titchy spectacle repair kits for a quid or so and inside you will find a nice lickle flat blade screwdriver about and inch or so long that works a treat.....wouldn`t be without mine. or a small flexi shaft jobby ! ;)

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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #536 on: 28 August 2012, 09:00:39 pm »
I set mine to 2 1/2 turns but I think that's standard for mine (03) I tried using a small 1/4 drive socket screwdriver but couldn't manage all 4.
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #537 on: 29 August 2012, 06:51:48 am »
no no no............................leave the starter motor alone. :rolleyes  get yerself one of those titchy spectacle repair kits for a quid or so and inside you will find a nice lickle flat blade screwdriver about and inch or so long that works a treat.....wouldn`t be without mine. or a small flexi shaft jobby ! ;)




matey  :eek ......your alive  :lol :lol :lol :lol .....................i have a flexi shaft....hav`nt used it in ages  :rolleyes
 thanks for the tip  ;) [size=78%]ade will find it out and give it a go[/size] :D [size=78%] [/size]
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #538 on: 29 August 2012, 06:53:55 am »
I set mine to 2 1/2 turns but I think that's standard for mine (03) I tried using a small 1/4 drive socket screwdriver but couldn't manage all 4.
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going to set mine at 2 1/2 aswell  :) .....going to try THE BLADES tip  ;) ....will let you know how i get on  :)
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #539 on: 30 August 2012, 01:54:51 pm »
re set the mixture screws last night....what a pain in the a*s  :\ ........did three of the carbs  with a small screwdriver no problem  :)  cylinder no 3 was a pain,can see the screw easy but once i get my hand in there i cant see bu**er all  :\  so took the starter out,which helped but still could`nt adjust,ended up loosening the inlet rubbers on the carbs and easing the carbs back and as high as i could  :\  i was than able to adjust no 3 :D
 all back together now and ready to balance the carbs  :D  all being well i`ll do that tonight and also do another  compression test to see what difference re-seating the valves has made  ;)
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« Reply #540 on: 30 August 2012, 08:37:07 pm »
told you they where bstds didn,t i ?...still a right fkr with starter out!! be ok if you had female hands? :b .....they can get any where!! into the smallest of wallets etc!! :rolleyes .....hurry up and get it road tested !!...we all waiting in anticipation here!!!!!!!...... :)

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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #541 on: 30 August 2012, 09:02:47 pm »
forgot  :o .....my brother-in laws 50th birthday today....so had to go up and see the oldman and have a beer.....no fettling time today  :\ ........by the end of the weekend the carbs should be balanced and the test ride done :D ......watch this space  ;)




crh........" smallest of  wallets "    :rollin :rollin :rollin you met swmbo then ;)
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #542 on: 30 August 2012, 09:08:21 pm »
 :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek  why does everyone seem to have troubles adjusting carbs in situ? .....and yes clive, i do have fully grown MALE hands. little bit of head-scatching and some ingenuity and problem will be instantly solved !!........you wanna work on the tw&t of a bike i got in today ( sachs xtc 125 )........what a pile of sh&te that is, and yes everything is very crammed on it. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol . not a hope in hell for spares. :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

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« Reply #543 on: 30 August 2012, 09:10:12 pm »
forgot  :o .....my brother-in laws 50th birthday today....so had to go up and see the oldman and have a beer.....no fettling time today  :\ ........by the end of the weekend the carbs should be balanced and the test ride done :D ......watch this space  ;)




crh........" smallest of  wallets "    :rollin :rollin :rollin you met swmbo then ;)
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« Reply #544 on: 30 August 2012, 09:12:52 pm »
Used to have a lovely fat wallet!!!..and loads a bikes!!...till" i rode a ...pussy! :'( .....now all me bikes gone but two !!...puss still purs though :b :b :b :b :b :b

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« Reply #545 on: 30 August 2012, 09:20:07 pm »
total filth :rolleyes :rolleyes ........keep it clean........theres sprogs on this forum apparently :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #546 on: 30 August 2012, 09:22:18 pm »
hey ade?...you still thinking its carbs then?....cus 4turns out seems a bit sus you think?? :rolleyes

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« Reply #547 on: 30 August 2012, 09:29:53 pm »
hey ade?...you still thinking its carbs then?....cus 4turns out seems a bit sus you think?? :rolleyes
i will say zees only vonce big boy.......rule of thumb tends to be, if you have to back out 3 full turns or more to get it to run half decent then you need up move up one maybe two jet sizes to bring it back down to a more acceptable 2 full turns out. between you and i matey, my dosh is still on carbs / fuel pump ( or both).......definitely a fuel delivery prob. fair play to ole Red, he`s gone the full hog on this one......i`d take my hat off to him, but swmbo only lets me wear the big frilly jobby on a saturday evening unfortunately !! :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

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« Reply #548 on: 30 August 2012, 09:43:27 pm »
ok mabe you are right ? but the compression being how it was? couldnt have helped much surely??...whats throwing me off fuel pump/ delivery is that he can get through the stutter by not snapping the throttle open?,just by building it up gradualy!! :rolleyes and remember this?...he,s got a std can on his not a aftermrkt like you got?? so why in the first place would them carbs need to be tweeked that far out?...unless?...the previos owner had had a race can on it b4 red bought it and didnt put screws bk to factory??????
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« Reply #549 on: 30 August 2012, 09:46:46 pm »
ps, you got any ...pics of the ....big frilly jobby"  you ware???????? :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b