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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #425 on: 15 August 2012, 11:10:21 pm »
and yes!!..the best way to grind the valves!!....dont f,get to chk the valve gides either?..but then again?..it didnt smoke did it?...still think its the valves though?..although that head gasket looks sus dont it??....anyway? not long to go?..what is it now?..6hours?..only 18 to go?? :\ ......ps you are allowed a tea break you know? :rollin

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« Reply #426 on: 16 August 2012, 02:52:53 pm »
i think it might be a mixture of the two.the gasket is defo not right and it came off way to easy,dont think the black stuff is carbon,it feels a bit rubbery so think its some sort of coating on the std yam gasket ,the replacement ones i`ve seen look to be copper,head was torqued down correctly  :)
 as for the valves,iam going to try my valve spring compression tool tonight,not sure if it will fit at mo.
i`ll know more when i get the valves out  ;)
 as a little treat to myself i bought a new torque wrench today as old one not to be trusted any more,got myself some new hex drive sockets aswell ,my old omes were only just long enough to remove the head bolts  :)  new ones a bit longer....bought at MACHINE MART in tower hamlets.....my favorite shop  :) :) :)
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« Reply #427 on: 16 August 2012, 05:41:58 pm »
never seen that on any head gasket before?....thats why i thought it may be carbon?....by the way? we used a car compressor type when doing the busa!! with a bit of a jiggle it fit?? ;) .....got fkn problem meself now?....when i put igy on" all the lights flash on clocks when i put headlights on and flick to main beam!!!!!!!!!! :\ ......i fkn hate electrics :'(

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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #428 on: 16 August 2012, 08:22:05 pm »
never seen that on any head gasket before?....thats why i thought it may be carbon?....by the way? we used a car compressor type when doing the busa!! with a bit of a jiggle it fit?? ;) .....got fkn problem meself now?....when i put igy on" all the lights flash on clocks when i put headlights on and flick to main beam!!!!!!!!!! :\ ......i fkn hate electrics :'(


hi matey....wish i could help you with that,as i`ve already said not too go at electrics......try the usual suspects first earths,connections and battery.....if you have not tried that already
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #429 on: 16 August 2012, 08:33:34 pm »
yea had a quick look earlier! couldnt see owt amiss so time for strip down number 2!....thought after last time with neutral switch prob, that would be it for a while?...am like you?..big lumpy metal bits over yards a wiring anytime!!...brings back memories of a gl1000 gold wing i bought in 1975!...fantastic bike!...appart from always in bike shop with lecy probs!!! :\ ......think ile post it and see what i get bk?? :rolleyes .....did you whip valves out?

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« Reply #430 on: 16 August 2012, 08:54:57 pm »
evening my automotive playmates........cleaned the head up tonight,no signs of damage  :D  also found my valve spring compressors...for cars really and are both too big  :\ ...think i can modify the one on the right though,this ones for ohv engines the other for ohc.....iam going to cut a length of 16mm od tube and cut a slot in it length ways , this will fit in the top jaws of the clamp and reduce the diameter, the slot is so i can remove the collets ;) i will also need a 20mm spacer to fit on the valve face for the same reason.
 only 1/2 hr tonight as long day at work.......6 1/2 so far  ;)
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« Reply #431 on: 16 August 2012, 09:04:03 pm »
having trouble uploading pictures tonight , will try again tomorrow......2 pictures of the cleaned head and one of the spring compressors  :)
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« Reply #432 on: 16 August 2012, 09:10:46 pm »
only 1/2 hour?.....has she got you doing fkn housework again?.....tut tut tut :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin oh f,got...only ........17 1/2 to go!!!!!!!!!!! :lol

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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #433 on: 16 August 2012, 09:20:25 pm »
no not housework  :rollin .......11 hr day at work,work  :\
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« Reply #434 on: 16 August 2012, 09:59:22 pm »
evening all.........yes i`ve been here on and off keeping up to date with the major surgery thats in progress :lol  only question i have is, why when you filled up the comb / chambers with fuel that partly leaked out after a short while, did you instantly suspect the head gasket? reason i ask is............if the valves are all nicely seated ( closed) and the `crush` washer on the plugs are in good shape, then for all intent and purposes that chamber should be water / fuel tight. am i correct? if `fluid` is leaking somehow, then its seeping past a valve or dicky plug washer...........so where does the head gasket come into all this? bear in mind the head has been upside-down during this test? still sticking with fuelly / carbs issue........sowwy ! :rolleyes

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« Reply #435 on: 16 August 2012, 10:02:13 pm »
you took the words out me mouth ade!!!!! :rolleyes ......i was just thinking the same??.....ps nice to have you bk mate :b ;)

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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #436 on: 16 August 2012, 10:11:25 pm »
creeping barsteward :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin . hope ya well clive mate ;)  sticking with carbs , but i reckon any compression probs point to leaking plugs (s) or valve seatings. sorry, my money aint on the gasket, whatever its condition.........but hey what do i know...........i`m just a weekend crossdresser that likes to talk to hunky fellas of a weeknight :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #437 on: 16 August 2012, 10:17:03 pm »
ya not bad urself mate!! :b ......anyway?....ime going with valves!!....that compresion test says it all i think??  :rolleyes ps you got decent pair a high heels i can borra? :rollin :rollin :rollin

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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #438 on: 16 August 2012, 10:25:43 pm »
gotta cracking pair of cerise sling backs if they`ll fit matey........................oh they`re size 16!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin be warned, they are a real bitch to run in.......don`t ask ! and yes, valves do sound a bit suspect but not for stuttering........more along the lines of poor power performance and ba$tard starting issues perhaps, i don`t know.............and i`m tired. busy day again today :'(

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« Reply #439 on: 16 August 2012, 10:35:12 pm »
yuk!! not pink mate?..what the fk do you think i am? :\ ......tried sling backs before?....chaff me a bit?....but hey?..hang on to em?...red will be along shortly?? :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b

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« Reply #440 on: 16 August 2012, 10:37:34 pm »
yeah, word on da street is he`s well into peep-toe 6 inchers (heels that is pervy) :rollin :rollin

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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #441 on: 17 August 2012, 06:55:32 am »
yes ade your right  ;) ...the petrol test was to see if the valves were gas tight due to low compression ,and yes right again about seeping past the plug......re-grinding the valves is going to help my compression and i still think the head gasket is not helping things stutter wise  :\ .....i like you am not 100% sure this will solve my origanal problem but its going to help  :) .......good to have you back matey  :D
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« Reply #442 on: 17 August 2012, 06:55:56 am »
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #443 on: 17 August 2012, 09:13:54 am »
picture 1 what ? ........a scantily-clad young maiden drizzling warm honey down all over your .........................Ahem, sorry drifted away there :lol :lol :lol :lol  picture 1 what mate ? :rolleyes

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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #444 on: 17 August 2012, 09:45:17 am »
yuk!! not pink mate?..what the fk do you think i am? :\ ......tried sling backs before?....chaff me a bit?....but hey?..hang on to em?...red will be along shortly?? :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b

ah.....think i can make use of the sling backs.......slice the tops off and graft the heels  on to the tops of my frank thomas touring boots.......go down a storm on ladies day at the ACE  :rollin :rollin
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #445 on: 17 August 2012, 09:49:52 am »
picture 1 what ? ........a scantily-clad young maiden drizzling warm honey down all over your .........................Ahem, sorry drifted away there :lol :lol :lol :lol  picture 1 what mate ? :rolleyes

HAVING TROUBLE WITH PICTURES LATELY ......HAD TWO PICTURES OF THE CLEANED HEAD AND ONE OF THE COMPRESSION TOOLS.....WONT DOWNLOAD FOR SOME REASON,WILL TRY LATER  ;)
 TELL US MORE ABOUT THE DRIZZLING HONEY.......MMMMMMMMMMMM
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« Reply #446 on: 17 August 2012, 11:27:53 am »
HONEY!!!!! :eek >>>>>>>>>>ADE MATE TELL ME MORE?????????????????? :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b

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« Reply #447 on: 17 August 2012, 11:36:13 am »
you can tell THE BLADE IS BACK.......feeling a bit peckish now  ;)
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Re: stuttering fzs 600
« Reply #448 on: 17 August 2012, 11:40:32 am »
ive cut a couple of lenghts of 16mm od steel tubing to reduce the size of my compression tool.ive also cut a slot length ways so i can remove the collets....ive cut about a quarter out as dont want to weaken the tube too much....its going to be a struggle getting the collets out through such a small opening but i`ll give it a go  :D
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« Reply #449 on: 17 August 2012, 11:45:23 am »
you can tell THE BLADE IS BACK.......feeling a bit peckish now  ;)
................yes!! trouble is now red?...we got to watch he dont ...lure...us over to the DARK SIDE!!....cant be making mistakes on your ride" at this stage mate?? :\ ......between us mate?..i do think ...help"..is available for the old fella...but to be fair ?  thats not our shout  :rolleyes .....