Clutch adjusting nut

[darrsi]

I went to properly adjust my clutch cable earlier, at both ends, but the clutch adjusting nut rounded off even though i only nipped it up when i last fitted a new cable, and i was using a socket to loosen it. 


Because of the deep positioning of it, inside the clutch cover, i don't quite know how i can remove it, and it needs doing as the adjuster at the top end only hasa few threads left on it.


Anyone got any bright ideas how i can sensibly remove it?


I'll obviously have to get a new one to replace it with.

[sinto]

You say you've rounded it off? Do you know to what extent, have you got a pic or two of it? Maybe give us a better idea.

[anutz]

i have no idea but am watching with interest.... , as i am 99% sure i could do this when i try!

[darrsi]

You say you've rounded it off? Do you know to what extent, have you got a pic or two of it? Maybe give us a better idea.

12mm socket slips on a 12mm nut, simple as that really.

[anutz]

left hand drill bit and some screw extractors...


OR can you get at it from the other side i.e. the shaft and twist that?


Or can you get some needle nose pliers in there with some rubber for grip?

[darrsi]

left hand drill bit and some screw extractors...


OR can you get at it from the other side i.e. the shaft and twist that?


Or can you get some needle nose pliers in there with some rubber for grip?

Can't use a drill, it's the outer 12mm nut i want off, not the inner adjuster screw.

[anutz]

ok i need to educate myself on this bit of the bike, i had never even taken that little cap off!


are they expensive???


hmmm


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-98-03-front-sprocket-cover-casing-clutch-actuator-99-00-01-/281827759682?hash=item419e3e5642:g:FzYAAOSwAYtWHiOF

[sinto]

Put the 12mm (or even a bigger one) then going down the centre of the socket put a flat screw driver down the side of nut to jam the socket, but instead of using the socket wrench to remove, a pair of mole grips or decent pliers should be enough to loosen the nut.

[Val]

the best way to remove it would be irwin bolt grip remover like this set:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irwin-Bolt-Grip-Remover-394001/dp/B0000CCXVZ

[sinto]

the best way to remove it would be irwin bolt grip remover like this set:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irwin-Bolt-Grip-Remover-Expansion/dp/B000QW6K8I

They'd need to be long reach ones to get at the nut.

[celticdog]

7/16 or 15/32 AF imperial socket should fit over a rounded 12mm nut with a bit of gentle persuasion (hammer!) depending on how rounded it is. Get the type with 6 sides, not the one with 12 corners . . . good luck with it!

[darrsi]

Just ordered a replacement version of the nut, so hopefully it won't be made of cheese like this one, from ATV Parts UK.


Original Yamaha number is 901790817900


Replacement nut is coded 214163440000


£5.01 delivered.


Apparently it's a "special shaped" nut, otherwise i would've used a stainless one from work.

[sinto]

ok i need to educate myself on this bit of the bike, i had never even taken that little cap off!

You just prize it off with a flat screwdriver, then you'll see what we're talking about.

are they expensive???

Not really, there's no liquid behind the actual plate, if you just unscrew it off I'm sure you'll find most of the gunk that's came off the chain etc.
You sure you've not had this off when you were doing your front sprocket? As that's what's behind it

[Val]

the best way to remove it would be irwin bolt grip remover like this set:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irwin-Bolt-Grip-Remover-394001/dp/B0000CCXVZ

They'd need to be long reach ones to get at the nut.

They are sockets and will get there fine and its only tool that bites into the nut when you untighten it, irwin grip sockets are the best for removing any stuck nuts/bolts.

[darrsi]

ok i need to educate myself on this bit of the bike, i had never even taken that little cap off!


are they expensive???


hmmm


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-98-03-front-sprocket-cover-casing-clutch-actuator-99-00-01-/281827759682?hash=item419e3e5642:g:FzYAAOSwAYtWHiOF

You need to read this, it's a very worthwhile thing to do.

[sinto]

the best way to remove it would be irwin bolt grip remover like this set:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irwin-Bolt-Grip-Remover-394001/dp/B0000CCXVZ

They'd need to be long reach ones to get at the nut.

They are sockets and will get there fine and its only tool that bites into the nut when you untighten it, irwin grip sockets are the best for removing any stuck nuts/bolts.

You won't be able to put anything into the square bit at the back of those sockets to give you leverage due to the clutch adjusting screw that the nut goes over, that's why I said you need long reach ones.
I do agree they're good but not for that bolt.

[darrsi]

the best way to remove it would be irwin bolt grip remover like this set:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irwin-Bolt-Grip-Remover-394001/dp/B0000CCXVZ

Maybe they might have something like this at my work?
No point in me buying them, i may as well just buy another sprocket cover for the same money!


Wonder why there's an 18 years old age limit on them?

[anutz]

ok i need to educate myself on this bit of the bike, i had never even taken that little cap off!


are they expensive???


hmmm


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-98-03-front-sprocket-cover-casing-clutch-actuator-99-00-01-/281827759682?hash=item419e3e5642:g:FzYAAOSwAYtWHiOF

You need to read this, it's a very worthwhile thing to do.

I am watching.....and waiting..... ....only kidding

[celticdog]

You've nothing to loose (except £24)    Get it off the bike and into a vice and take a hammer to it!
Or . . .


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Multi-fit-socket-7mm-to-19mm-damaged-nut-removal-3-8-drive/361305783211?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3Da9bafaaa89dd49bd99aa17bdca7e0f3f%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D20%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D201312094629

[darrsi]

You've nothing to loose (except £24)    Get it off the bike and into a vice and take a hammer to it!
Or . . .


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Multi-fit-socket-7mm-to-19mm-damaged-nut-removal-3-8-drive/361305783211?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3Da9bafaaa89dd49bd99aa17bdca7e0f3f%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D20%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D201312094629

Was thinking about that gadget earlier.
They're 24mm in diameter though,not sure if itwould fit in the gap without measuring it?

[sinto]

Was thinking about that gadget earlier.
They're 24mm in diameter though,not sure if itwould fit in the gap without measuring it?

Might not fit in the gap as you say, but another problem you'll have is the centre pins will push up against the adjusting screw first and maybe not allow it to go down far enough to catch the nut.

[darrsi]

Was thinking about that gadget earlier.
They're 24mm in diameter though,not sure if itwould fit in the gap without measuring it?

Might not fit in the gap as you say, but another problem you'll have is the centre pins will push up against the adjusting screw first and maybe not allow it to go down far enough to catch the nut.

Yeah, i just said exactly the same thing to a mate of mine.
Handy little gadget though, just ordered one for £7.99, it's bound to come in handy.

[sinto]

Was thinking about that gadget earlier.
They're 24mm in diameter though,not sure if itwould fit in the gap without measuring it?

Might not fit in the gap as you say, but another problem you'll have is the centre pins will push up against the adjusting screw first and maybe not allow it to go down far enough to catch the nut.

Yeah, i just said exactly the same thing to a mate of mine.
Handy little gadget though, just ordered one for £7.99, it's bound to come in handy.

Always handy, I've got one in the bottom of my tool box just in case, but really only good if you have clear access to the thing you want to move.
I've used mine to remove many a worn nut/bolt. You just need to remember to push it on and hold it there as you turn to slacken or it just comes off

[celticdog]

Don't forget to let us all know how you get on with this one darrsi 

[mr self destruct]

I find Metrinch sockets perfect for situations like this.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/METRINCH-1-4-Socket-Spanners-Set-0-20-0-51-9-Pt-Deep-Long-MET-0230-Cliprail-/251971465959?hash=item3aaaab72e7:m:msilKaJMdrPx895LgYuPYLw


They have quite bad reviews and are known for rounding off good nuts, but I only use mine for nuts that are already fucked so I've got nothing to lose.