People do complain to their MPs and MEPs but nothing happens because you are immediately classed as a racist or fascist when the subject of any kind of immigration control is mentioned.
what I can't understand is why don't these lorries have locks on their doors .
The humanitarian crisis is what worries me and we must(all western nations) shoulder our share of the blame for supporting crazy despotic regimes just so we can keep our armaments industries in business. And when its suited us to storm in & destabilize these countries. No wonder radical Islam thrives.
Guess its easier for the Italians, Spanish,French to move the problem out of sight & preferably over the channel to us.
If you go to Calais you will see these guys wandering round wearing new trainers, decent clothes and almost all of them have an MP3 player headphones either in their ears or round their necks. I'm not exaggerating these observations, this is what I saw, anyone who goes to Calais will see the same thing. In most cases they were dressed better than us.When we peeled off the A16 onto the Eurotunnel slip road 5 or 6 guys came running up the embankment waving for us to stop, we ignored them of course, but I found myself wondering what they wanted, we were on fully loaded bikes FFS. Thinking about it the only thing we could have given them is cash, but do they really think people will stop on a motorway slip road and ask what they wanted with all the publicity thats surrounding them?Something needs to be done short term, probably sending ANY person found in this country illegally from outside the EU back to either Calais or wherever they came from. Before anyone makes a comparison with the people who came from the West Indies in the 50's and 60's and all the "Send 'em back" rhetoric which was around years after, we ASKED those people to come here because we needed them, we did not ask the people trying to sneak in now to come here, we DONT need them!Something also needs to be done long term, we need to stop making this country so appealing to them, but this will be difficult as they believe that they will be made welcome here, as told to them by the traffickers and the general gossip between themselves. The UK is the promised land, once you get in there's free money, housing, clothes, and when they get accepted by the authorities, the chance to bring over their families to increase their burden on the rest of us who are paying for all this.
I am a firm believer that the UK must lend more assistance to the French in the port areas of France
I know Bob I've witnessed it for myself. There were scores of bobbys spread out along the approach roads just watching the migrants walking in the road to force the trucks to stop while all their mates were bashing away at the truck doors to get them open. One day a trucks not going to stop and take half s dozen of them to meet their maker. Getting back to spoiled loads, the andrex paper mill by me regularly find stowaways when a delivery of paper unloads and the whole truck load gets destroyed because of the piss and shit'
Its now turned into a lawless scrum and something HAS to be done locally NOW or someone will get killed.
Getting shot of Gaddafi was a mistake and you could say the same of Sadam (and maybe even Assad). These despots ran authoritarian states which generally caused the West no problems, suppressed radical Islam and maintained border controls.
If these were genuine refugees there would be women and children. There would be no smart phones.
Last year, 38.8% of UK decisions ended in a grant of asylum or an alternative form of protection. For France the rate was 21.7%. But, while the rate of approval differed between France and the UK, the overall number of people allowed to stay was 10,050 in the UK, for France it was 14,905, because France had more than twice as many applicants.
If there is 5,000 of them at the tunnel all hell would break loose if they all decided to storm the tunnel,,,we hopefully have a plan for that perhaps not,,if the army collected them at our end,,what would they do with them then?We need a door to keep them in France
Quote from: slimwilly on 29 July 2015, 06:40:59 amIf there is 5,000 of them at the tunnel all hell would break loose if they all decided to storm the tunnel,,,we hopefully have a plan for that perhaps not,,if the army collected them at our end,,what would they do with them then?We need a door to keep them in France Let em storm the tunnel. We just extend it all the way back to Africa
QuoteIts now turned into a lawless scrum and something HAS to be done locally NOW or someone will get killed.I think millions already have died. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and so on.But none of you give a fuck about that.QuoteGetting shot of Gaddafi was a mistake and you could say the same of Sadam (and maybe even Assad). These despots ran authoritarian states which generally caused the West no problems, suppressed radical Islam and maintained border controls. Most of these guys were our guys. If they weren't our guys they were the Russian's guys. Countries like Iraq were drawn up by ourselves to suit our own interests. Indeed that lovely sweet racist Winston Churchill gassed the Kurds long before Saddam did the same in 1988 with the chemicals that we had sold him. Of that nobody cared until it suited us to care over 15 years later, and of course still nobody uttered a word of Churchill's slaughter.Here's an interesting wee article http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13499912.UK_government_spent_13_times_more_bombing_Libya_than_on_rebuilding_post_war/Says it all really.QuoteIf these were genuine refugees there would be women and children. There would be no smart phones.I pissed myself at that. Who decided that a refugee can't have a smart phone? Foc me!