Today's "What Gets My Goat" - NO POLITICS!

[coffee]

Yeah, It used to be the same with "basically" you'd talk to someone and basically they'd be basically talking basically in riddles basically.

[red98]

It is what it is..........

[BBROWN1664]

you know what I mean

[coffee]

Basically,no

[YamFazFan]

 French fisherman intimidating and ramming UK fleet that's fishing perfectly legally.

 Typical shoddy behaviour.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

French fisherman intimidating and ramming UK fleet that's fishing perfectly legally.

 Typical shoddy behaviour.

Except that the French are not allowed to harvest these stocks at this time of year, in their own waters, in order to preserve the stocks. 
The law doesn’t apply to British vessels so they sail into French waters and hoover up the stocks.
So yeah, one can understand the French fishermen’s frustration.
 

[Hugh Mungus]

Gotta agree VNA, our fleet shouldn't be there while the French have a self imposed ban to preserve stocks.
They'd soon be moaning if it were the other way round.

[mtread]

Agreed. Can you imagine the outrage here, if it was the other way round!

[YamFazFan]

I thought the EU was all about sharing. We're sharing the scallops

Very tasty they are too

[BBROWN1664]

in their own waters,

14 miles out is international waters

[mtread]

.... but still nowhere near the UK

[celticdog]

Everyone's for preserving stocks but EU fishing laws are all a bit mental. So we can fish just outside the french waters when they're not allowed BUT, Spanish and Portuguese are free to fish in the Hebrides but UK boats are subject to quotas and can only fish for certain species. Have you ever been to Portugal, they love them little fish, they must use old ladies 60 denier tights as nets, no wonder they can't get the smell off the fish.

[mtread]

All a bit immaterial anyway. Once we leave the EU and the common fisheries policy, we won't be allowed to fish there ...

[steve 10562cc]

I used to live in south Devon  I've been fishing Slapton beach and there has been French and Spanish trawlers less than 200mtrs from  the beach ripping the bottom of the Skerris up with drag nets when they have run through the sea bed is completely destroyed for a couple of months. don't feel sorry for the EU  they buy up all the fish quoters  stopping the British fishermen earning a living. I think if look at commercial fishing in general, there's EU rules what boats can fish for and when but as a rule only the British skippers obey them. For those of us old enough to remember this smacks of the cod wars with Iceland. Only difference is we had a Royal navy with enough sea worthy ships to protect them.       

[mtread]

Other difference is that Iceland were not, and are still not part of the EU. Once we leave it's going to be a 'free for all' with no rules, and no fish left anywhere.

[F4celess]

French fisherman intimidating and ramming UK fleet that's fishing perfectly legally.

 Typical shoddy behaviour.

Except that the French are not allowed to harvest these stocks at this time of year, in their own waters, in order to preserve the stocks. 
The law doesn’t apply to British vessels so they sail into French waters and hoover up the stocks.
So yeah, one can understand the French fishermen’s frustration.

Could this all change with Brexit !?

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 

For those of us old enough to remember this smacks of the cod wars with Iceland. Only difference is we had a Royal navy with enough sea worthy ships to protect them.   

The Icelanders were protecting their stocks from British vessels that were determined to fish the stocks to extinction.  Iceland stood it’s ground against the UK.  Iceland eventually secured a 200 mile Icelandic exclusive fishery zone and in doing so was able to preserve and maintain it’s stocks and fishing industry. 
 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Could this all change with Brexit !?

BREXIT?  BREXIT?  Did somebody say BREXIT?
Dunno F4celess, but what I do know is this.  Before the BREXIT referendum the price of a brand new MT10 was £9999.00The price today is £11,499.00
Expect the price to rise further if there is a no deal BREXIT.
The best EU deal is of course the deal we already have.

[steve 10562cc]

It was the same.  Iceland claimed/wanted control over international waters same as the French are now trying with the Scallop fishing. Try talking to local Cornish and Devon skippers it would really open your eyes to the stunts being pulled, and not to the benefit of local trawlers and inshore boats. No I'm not involved with commercial fishing in any way just used to fish on angling boats and occasionally crewed one when the skipper was short of a crew.     

[VNA - BMW Wank]

I have to say I love fish.  I eat much more fish than I do meat.

Iceland claimed/wanted control over international waters same as the French are now trying with the Scallop fishing.

Not gonna argue with that steve. 


But let's not forget that North Sea Cod stocks fell some 84% from 1970 to 2006.  We almost wiped out our fish stocks.

About 90% of the cod consumed in the UK in recent years comes from guess where? - Iceland.

[fazersharp]

But let's not forget that North Sea Cod stocks fell some 84% from 1870 to 2006.  We almost wiped out our fish stocks.

Not sure about the "WE" remark unless the "we" are humans.I was in Porto last year and was amazed to see so much cod -rows of it, salted and stacked up in boxes waist high with most of it about the size of a fazer seat - some bigger, that was in the equivalent size shop of a tesco express or Co-op. But smaller side street shops also sell it so that you can find it everywhere.
I don't see how the uk should feel so guilty about a shitty piece of cod once a fortnight from the local chippy.
Their love of salted cod comes from pre refrigeration days where they would have to salt it to survive the journey back to Portugal from the north sea.   
 

[fazersharp]

In other countries they eat Roach and Perch - so should we.I believe Monk fish used to be caught by accident and thrown back, it now costs a small fortune.   

Edit to say --- It gets my goat that--Monk fish used to be caught by accident and thrown back, it now costs a small fortune. As this is a GET MY GOAT THREAD --- cough !   

 

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Not sure about the "WE" remark unless the "we" are humans.

We the UK.  Oh I've corrected my dates, 1970 - not 1870 - DOH.

We’ve still got a significant fishing and seafood industry here in Scotland.  It’s a big export industry for Scotland.  But of course, the export side of it is under threat by BREXIT.

With the rising price of fish Pollock is another recent addition, it’s dirt cheap.
 

[steve 10562cc]

Fazersharp you've hit the nail on the there our fishermen for the most part follow the rules to the letter, not all other trawlers are so diligent in there applying or the rules. Dumping tons of fish because they have caught their quota of cod etc it's dead by the time it gets on the deck how does that protect the fish stock, all it achieves is to protect the high prices the large trawler fleet owners get for the fish they land, As for Iceland bet Scotland, Shetlands and other countries with the north sea on their shores would like a 200mile exclusion zone for foreign trawlers.

[steve 10562cc]

Rumour has it that as the last commissioned war ship seaworthy available HMS VICTORY is be being made ready for sea to protect the British trawlers from the French. She will be putting to sea if/when they can find a crew that can sail her.