Author Topic: I like this. (Read 6547 times)

chris.biker · « **on:** 08 May 2015, 06:17:23 pm »

I like the look of this.

Hamos · « **Reply #1 on:** 08 May 2015, 08:29:53 pm »

I agree. Never heard of Mission Motorcycles before. That bike looks amazing and would seem to offer just what I have sitting in th garag now. Price is prohibitive, but if you look at the latest Panegale at £25k then not that far off. I'm all for electric, bring it on. Would love to have a go on this.

Dead Eye · « **Reply #2 on:** 10 May 2015, 11:23:52 am »

Looks pretty awesome but the catch as always is the range. Battery tech hasn't caught up to the convenience of combustion fuels yet

That's the only thing that would stop me for sure

Hamos · « **Reply #3 on:** 10 May 2015, 04:21:03 pm »

I rarely get 25 miles from my house anyway and most trips are to work and back. I would get one over a panegale if both were an option

midden · « **Reply #4 on:** 10 May 2015, 04:55:18 pm »

I'd be alright Jack. Free charge point's in Q car parks

Dead Eye · « **Reply #5 on:** 10 May 2015, 05:03:11 pm »

I imagine it would be good for the odd small bimble or commuter job, but you would certainly have issues if you wanted to do any sort of touring, or medium-long stretches. I can't see it being any use for having a day out in Wales for example unless you lived there, or fairly close by. Hell, for most of us, by the time we go to some of our favourite roads we'd probably have to limp home again...

All that being said and done though, perhaps it will encourage a wider adoption of electrical charging outlets across the country. Ultimately there is a need for improved battery tech, so that you can stuff a ridiculous amount of amps down its throat in one go without any reliability / lifetime issues

chris.biker · « **Reply #6 on:** 10 May 2015, 09:27:31 pm »

It charges in an hour, so lunch time at a stop off could afford to pay up to £10 for a charge that uses pennies worth of electricity. It would still be about a third of the cost of fuel in the Hornet to do a 140 miles.

midden · « **Reply #7 on:** 10 May 2015, 10:24:03 pm »

Some sainsbury's have charge points free for customers to use. Bargain

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #8 on:** 10 May 2015, 10:25:53 pm »

How long do these things take to charge up?

midden · « **Reply #9 on:** 10 May 2015, 10:30:47 pm »

Quote from: chris.biker on 10 May 2015, 09:27:31 pm

It charges in an hour, so lunch time at a stop off could afford to pay up to £10 for a charge that uses pennies worth of electricity. It would still be about a third of the cost of fuel in the Hornet to do a 140 miles.

Dead Eye · « **Reply #10 on:** 10 May 2015, 10:38:44 pm »

Hmm... that's actually totally unreasonable

I was expecting something more akin to 6 hours~

The regenerative braking is definitely a bonus to avoid wasting as much energy as possible

midden · « **Reply #11 on:** 10 May 2015, 10:50:39 pm »

Problem comes when deciding whether to have one with gears or not. Brembo has 6 speed box.......

chris.biker · « **Reply #12 on:** 10 May 2015, 11:31:31 pm »

No need for gears so don't want them.

It can be charged in ten minutes if done with DC.

My next question to the manufacturer would be wht is the serviceable life of the battery and how much for a replacement?

Dead Eye · « **Reply #13 on:** 11 May 2015, 12:14:20 pm »

They said in the video that they don't make it with gears - seems fair enough to me. I'd like to give it a try because as they mentioned in the video, you get all that torque from the electric motor at any given RPM... that's gotta be fun!

midden · « **Reply #14 on:** 11 May 2015, 12:28:47 pm »

Based only on my commute to work which costs around £899 per year is it economically viable

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #15 on:** 11 May 2015, 12:51:43 pm »

Quote from: midden on 11 May 2015, 12:28:47 pm

Based only on my commute to work which costs around £899 per year is it economically viable

Would that be between £898.50 and £899.50 per year?

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #16 on:** 11 May 2015, 01:05:27 pm »

Quote from: chris.biker on 10 May 2015, 11:31:31 pm

My next question to the manufacturer would be wht is the serviceable life of the battery and how much for a replacement?

Seems like a pretty important question to me.

Also, tying in with this; let's say for argument's sake that these kinds of battery-powered vehicles become practical and economically viable to the point where they replace the ICE for general road use. What would be the costs, if any, to the environment, of disposal of potentially 100s of 1000s of such batteries as they expire?

Dead Eye · « **Reply #17 on:** 11 May 2015, 01:25:54 pm »

Probably less so that the Carbon emissions from conventional internal combustion engines

Although landfill is a concern, it is less damaging to the overall planet than carbon emissions are - not that I'm suggesting that this is what would happen to them, just food for thought

midden · « **Reply #18 on:** 11 May 2015, 10:10:36 pm »

Quote from: nick crisp on 11 May 2015, 12:51:43 pm

Quote from: midden on 11 May 2015, 12:28:47 pm
Based only on my commute to work which costs around £899 per year is it economically viable

Would that be between £898.50 and £899.50 per year?

it would yes

and I'm waiting for Morrissons to install a coin tray payment facility so I can pay for it al in 1p's

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #19 on:** 11 May 2015, 10:13:50 pm »

Quote from: midden on 11 May 2015, 10:10:36 pm

and I'm waiting for Morrissons to install a coin tray payment facility so I can pay for it al in 1p's

midden · « **Reply #20 on:** 11 May 2015, 11:33:13 pm »

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They said in the video that they don't make it with gears - seems fair enough to me. I'd like to give it a try because as they mentioned in the video, you get all that torque from the electric motor at any given RPM... that's gotta be fun!
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https://youtu.be/1nN1q2ihw2Y

Hamos · « **Reply #21 on:** 12 May 2015, 09:49:26 am »

Just needs the charging infrastructure. I'm sure there is a sainsburys on my route into Wales, so I would stop there for a top up for 20 mins then carry on. I'm taking the plunge on an all electric car for commuting. Still keeping the family wagon for longer journeys. The BMW i3 is a rocket ship up to about 40 MPH. Worth a test drive.

Dead Eye · « **Reply #22 on:** 12 May 2015, 09:54:06 am »

Quote from: midden on 11 May 2015, 11:33:13 pm

Quote from: Dead Eye on 11 May 2015, 12:14:20 pm
They said in the video that they don't make it with gears - seems fair enough to me. I'd like to give it a try because as they mentioned in the video, you get all that torque from the electric motor at any given RPM... that's gotta be fun!

https://youtu.be/1nN1q2ihw2Y

I'm confused... I already watched the video, what exactly did I get wrong?

NorthWestern · « **Reply #23 on:** 12 May 2015, 10:21:26 am »

They have opened an electric only motox track/park about 2 miles from my office in Preston Brook called E-SCAPE. No noise from bikes would make this ideal for suburban tracks. I see that side of ebikes taking off first. The bikes enjoying the motox park in Preston (Trax) can be heard miles away at weekends, you know, when your stuck in having to paint your door frames on a lovely day, missus in your ear.....

Millietant · « **Reply #24 on:** 16 May 2015, 09:07:53 pm »

Forget batteries - hydrogen fuel cell technology is the way to go for electrical power.

Honda have proved it works far better than rechargeable lithium battery technology in electric cars (a range of 250 miles between fill-ups in the hydrogen Accord, with performance at least equal to the petrol powered version).

I dont really know why this technology hasn't taken off (maybe because it's successful enough to show the oil companies that if it was properly followed up, there would be no need for their petrol and diesel fuels).