Author Topic: Good day spoilt (Read 7789 times)

lew600fazer · « **on:** 11 March 2015, 09:23:53 pm »

Good day out spoilt. In the middle of nowhere , thankfully I carry a plugger kit and gas cartridges, got me home. Thing is there is at least 3k left on the tyre, what would you do???

Andy FZS · « **Reply #1 on:** 11 March 2015, 11:23:17 pm »

Ride it for another 3 years.......

nickodemon · « **Reply #2 on:** 11 March 2015, 11:42:52 pm »

I see it already has a plug! I would put another plug in it

midden · « **Reply #3 on:** 11 March 2015, 11:46:37 pm »

I would carry on using it.

bigralphie · « **Reply #4 on:** 11 March 2015, 11:59:34 pm »

I would ride on it but if its going to play on your mind change it

lew600fazer · « **Reply #5 on:** 12 March 2015, 12:00:56 am »

The plug is the repair I did today, I may have the tyre off and replug it again while it is off, perhaps use adhesive on the inside of the tyre and also a patch over the mushroom as well, maybe over kill but!!!!!!!!!!! more confidence in the repair.

flesh · « **Reply #6 on:** 12 March 2015, 12:10:23 am »

I have plugged tyres before but have never had the confidence in the tyre again.
For the sake of the cost of a new tyre vs your face down the road....I always spend the money....if you have it of course.

slimwilly · « **Reply #7 on:** 12 March 2015, 06:23:33 am »

If the only damage to the tyre is a small neat hole then i see it as there is no damage to the strength,safety of the tyre,at worst it will just leak.
Now if you saw ripped thread then that would be different

Are the roads dry and dusty like this MT09 ride ?

Punkstig · « **Reply #8 on:** 12 March 2015, 08:34:36 am »

Never had a single problem with plugged tyres!

lew600fazer · « **Reply #9 on:** 12 March 2015, 08:56:27 am »

Quote from: slimwilly on 12 March 2015, 06:23:33 am

If the only damage to the tyre is a small neat hole then i see it as there is no damage to the strength,safety of the tyre,at worst it will just leak.
Now if you saw ripped thread then that would be different

Are the roads dry and dusty like this MT09 ride ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEgfQixwlV8&t=80

Looking at the video, I would say that is very likely to be Spain, I would even go asfar to say likely not to far from were I live. lol.

Dead Eye · « **Reply #10 on:** 12 March 2015, 09:01:03 am »

I remember on one of our LoFo rides south mr Exup got a puncture after about 5 mins. Luckily I had a repair set under my seat so he patched the tyre and off we all went on the trip anyway and he doesn't exactly hang about :P

Pretty sure he used that tyre until the tread was gone

Phil · « **Reply #11 on:** 12 March 2015, 10:24:19 am »

Was it a mushroom type plug? Maybe unlikely if you repaired it roadside as I thing you need to take the tyre off but could be wrong.
The hole is in the centre of the tyre. If its in a sidewall it wouldn't be repaired by a dealer.
I'd keep riding if it was mine. I've had tyres plugged by dealers who would quite have happily sold me a new one but they reckoned they were safe enough.

SteveCardiff · « **Reply #12 on:** 12 March 2015, 11:07:50 am »

Never had a problem with a plugged tyre. I use them 'stop and go' mushroom plugs and have carried a passenger with luggage and toured at a reasonably rate of knots and they've never let me down.

I plugged the rear tyre on my daughter's Fazer but also put a patch over the head of the mushroom too to be sure to be sure.

Down to personal choice but if that tyre were mine, i'd use it no problem. If you can patch it too then all the better.

Arfa · « **Reply #13 on:** 12 March 2015, 12:15:11 pm »

I was always under the impression that your road side plug repair you push in, is just a temporary measure. As it could easily pop back out, leak air etc. To repair it properly it needs to be plugged from inside with a mushroom type plug glued down on the inside which has no chance of popping out.

TBH though, whenever I've had punctures, it's when the tyre is getting on a bit, tread depth getting close and so on, so I've always just stuck a new tyre on. Always deemed it a false economy to compromise grip for the sake of eeking out the last mm of tread...

HarryHornby · « **Reply #14 on:** 12 March 2015, 12:22:29 pm »

I like the idea of these plugs and gas canisters to get you home, are there good and bad makes or is one as good as the other. I'll have to get me one.

chaz · « **Reply #15 on:** 12 March 2015, 03:01:05 pm »

if you plug it with a mushroom (plug not what you eat) and keep your speed under 150 mph then whats the problem, what about the massive hole all round the tyre its only the air pressure holding it to the rim, do you worry about that? I don't think so.

lew600fazer · « **Reply #16 on:** 12 March 2015, 06:13:54 pm »

Quote from: Phil on 12 March 2015, 10:24:19 am

Was it a mushroom type plug? Maybe unlikely if you repaired it roadside as I thing you need to take the tyre off but could be wrong.
The hole is in the centre of the tyre. If its in a sidewall it wouldn't be repaired by a dealer.
I'd keep riding if it was mine. I've had tyres plugged by dealers who would quite have happily sold me a new one but they reckoned they were safe enough.

Phil it was a mushroom type plug , they are easy enough to fit.

fazersharp · « **Reply #17 on:** 12 March 2015, 07:48:20 pm »

Quote from: HarryHornby on 12 March 2015, 12:22:29 pm

I like the idea of these plugs and gas canisters to get you home, are there good and bad makes or is one as good as the other. I'll have to get me one.

I have one under my seat and got it from hein gerick, I was in JS (the onld HG) and they were selling them still
I dont know how good it is cause Ive never had to use it ----------- not that I havent had punctures its just that they could not of been repaired.

I do have a question
I have had mine now for about 6 years I wonder if the canasters will still work, I think it also comes with some rubber glue for the plug, best check if that is ok

ChristoT · « **Reply #18 on:** 13 March 2015, 02:19:13 am »

Amazin'.

A puncture thread, and neither Exup or Stiggy been plugging CraftyPluggers!

Nebuchernezzer · « **Reply #19 on:** 13 March 2015, 04:42:27 am »

Not on a bike but i've used plugs on tyres before and then proceeded to flog the tyre to absolute death and the repairs have always held up nicely.
I used to be a drifter years ago, in the early days before new tyres were cheap enough to use I used to get damaged or holed tyres and use them. The plugs actually wore down neatly with the rest of the rubber and no level of wheelspin, tyre heat etc seemed to make them rip out.

fazed · « **Reply #20 on:** 13 March 2015, 12:48:00 pm »

Personally I've always felt as th onlything that's keeping me on the road is the tyres and that yoou're absolutely dependent on them that if you have any doubt at all - change 'em. I'd rather spend money than blood!

slappy · « **Reply #21 on:** 13 March 2015, 05:42:32 pm »

I have one under my seat and got it from hein gerick, I was in JS (the onld HG) and they were selling them still
I dont know how good it is cause Ive never had to use it ----------- not that I havent had punctures its just that they could not of been repaired.

I do have a question
I have had mine now for about 6 years I wonder if the canasters will still work, I think it also comes with some rubber glue for the plug, best check if that is ok
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I was just thinking the same thing as I read this thread, mine is over 12 years old now and never been used, saying that I am probably tempting fate.

pointer2null · « **Reply #22 on:** 15 March 2015, 09:13:40 pm »

Had several tyres plugged. If the plug is in the tread then fine - never in a sidewall.

Mind you, I wouldn't assume a plugged tyre still has it's Z17 rating, so stick to sensible speeds.

lew600fazer · « **Reply #23 on:** 16 March 2015, 01:51:19 pm »

I went out on my plugged tyre yesterday and during the whole ride I was not comfortable, tyre has not lost any pressure since I plugged it . It is in me head now. Went to my local dealers this this morning asked them to see if they could get me another Angel ST and if so how much. €169.00 and that includes fitting £120.00. So tgomorrow near rubber being fitted. I will keep the old one as a spare. I will also take a photo of how the plug looks inside the old tyre, just curious as to how it looks.
I am sure the old tyre would have been fine to run a good bit longer as there is a good couple thousand kms wear left in it.
But as said it was getting to me and for £120.00 piece of mind.

chaz · « **Reply #24 on:** 16 March 2015, 03:43:46 pm »

BSAU159f states that no repairs are allowed in the sidewalls (these flex continuously and a repair is likely to fail), and the standard says repairs are not allowed on high speed Z-rated tyres.
that's why you have to keep your speed under 150mph because Z rated tyres are for speeds over 150mph