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Quickshifters !!!
« on: 11 December 2014, 06:55:45 am »
Some of you have them,,i want one  :'(





Watching this makes me want to get the credit card out :eek


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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #1 on: 11 December 2014, 12:34:27 pm »
Do quickshifters work on the downshift as well?

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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #2 on: 11 December 2014, 12:54:34 pm »
He needs to stop undertaking though!

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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #3 on: 11 December 2014, 03:29:46 pm »
You might struggle to find something for a Fazer, but I'd be interested if you do.


As for working on the down shift? The short answer is "No". However one or two of the very latest (2015) bikes have it as a feature. A lot easier to make it work when you can play with the ECU as the bike needs to automatically blip the throttle to ease things along. Together with a few other things as well I would guess.
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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #4 on: 11 December 2014, 05:29:53 pm »
a slipper clutch helps too
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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #5 on: 11 December 2014, 06:05:31 pm »
 I did not see him undertake although my playback is a bit jumpy
« Last Edit: 12 December 2014, 08:49:50 pm by fazersharp »
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Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #6 on: 11 December 2014, 09:17:19 pm »
You might struggle to find something for a Fazer,

Nah you won't, i fitted a translogic to my gen1, you can just see the shifter on the linkage rod, easy peasy to wire up if your confident with a soldiering iron and your bikes loom, take ign cut to coils, positive and neutral to battery.

Sorted :)

I have them on every bike, even fitted one on my gs !!
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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #7 on: 11 December 2014, 09:20:34 pm »

You might struggle to find something for a Fazer,

Nah you won't, i fitted a translogic to my gen1, easy peasy to wire up, take ign cut to coils, positive and neutral to battery.

Sorted :)

I have them on every bike, even fitted one on my gs !!


Good to know, thanks. I know a tame sparks so I may install one on my project Fazer at some point.


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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #8 on: 11 December 2014, 09:31:58 pm »
i mhave dyno quick shifter and the sp quickshifter which is the better of the two


« Last Edit: 11 December 2014, 09:33:01 pm by devilsyam »
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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #9 on: 11 December 2014, 10:37:08 pm »
Could you tell me how they work - what they do
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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #10 on: 12 December 2014, 01:38:24 am »
Enables you to change gear without rolling off the throttle by cutting the sparks to the spark plugs for a fraction of a second, or by cutting the fuel supply. This takes the load of the motor enabling the next gear to be selected. Connected to the gear shift so when you change up it senses it and cuts the spark or fuel supply.


It's only really needed for racing as it reduces the time you're off the throttle by fractions of a second. Over the course of a race those fractions add up to faster lap times.
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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #11 on: 12 December 2014, 11:19:12 am »
Thanks for that
But still not fully clear. So it is an automated clucthless change in like that when doing clutchless changes you put pressure on the gear change leaver and when you blip the throttle off and on the gear slips in, so with a quick shifter no pre pressure on leaver is needed and the shifter senses the gear leaver moving and effectively does the throttle off - on for you,  is that it ?
So its not a quickshifter but rather a (quicker shifter )

Its just that I kind of thought a quickshifter would just work from pressing a button to change gear
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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #12 on: 12 December 2014, 12:53:20 pm »
You've got it.


You can get shifters that work using a button, however I think they are mainly found on drag bikes.
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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #13 on: 12 December 2014, 01:18:01 pm »
Ive got mine on my gen 2 my favorite mod. :eek I love it they dont work on downshift and you are not meant to use it under 3k revs either (Never Happens lol) i think basically they cut the spark for a millisecond or 2 enabling u to quickshift up. Steve rode my gen2 with quickshifter fitted this year.

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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #14 on: 12 December 2014, 08:35:04 pm »

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It's only really needed for racing as it reduces the time you're off the throttle by fractions of a second. Over the course of a race those fractions add up to faster lap times.


Not true, especially as new bikes of today have these "factory fitted" on one of the bikes i have, the quickshifter is factory fitted and it also alloys downshifts ! You roll off the throttle and as you tap the lever it blips the throttle and changes down a gear without the need to pull the clutch lever in ! the bike in question ain't a sport bike either.

Don't be fooled by bods whom say they can do the same by rolling off the throttle and quickly snapping up on the gear lever ! They can't, a quickshifter allows you to change gear 4x faster than a blink of the eye.

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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #15 on: 12 December 2014, 09:08:56 pm »
I disagree. You don't "need" a quick shifter on the road. It may be a nice thing to have, but I've never needed one on the road. When do you really need to change gear a fraction of a second faster on the road? I can't think of one instance.
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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #16 on: 12 December 2014, 09:36:45 pm »
It's immense fun in a novel sort of way! Paul Brookers gen II suited it really well.

I wouldn't call it 'a necessity', but then again what is really?
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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #17 on: 12 December 2014, 10:03:35 pm »





I would love a quick shifter and i cant wait for brookers to stop working :b




They are just some cool ass bling aint they 8) [size=78%]............but acceptable..............if someone said they could get a device to make their bike an automatic then they'd prob say that wasnt so cool and a bit shit coz having an automatic just aint bling but quick shifters have just enough credibility to warrant the excuse to have them whilst not taking away full control.[/size]


If i was looking for an excuse to buy one then i would say that they are freeing up 1 more action of the brain and hence that attention can then be focused on other aspects like steering......every little helps :)
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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #18 on: 13 December 2014, 05:59:12 am »
Many manufacturers are now fitting quickshifters as standard, not a neccessity but a nice thing to have.
And i am sure it will save wear on the clutch actuator system,lever,pivots,cables ect,
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« Reply #19 on: 13 December 2014, 10:23:43 pm »
there a bit odd at first to get used to - i put a switch in line so can turn mine on/off
just gives me a choice


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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #20 on: 14 December 2014, 12:46:34 am »
i put a switch in line so can turn mine on/off
just gives me a choice


That's a good idea as some of them are constantly working, even with the motor off and can drain your battery if you don't use your bike regularly.
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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #21 on: 14 December 2014, 09:03:01 am »
So you introduce 'something else to go wrong' take some of the feel of feeding the clutch in on corner exits away and for what? oh yeah a sound that anyone can replicate by changing gear clutchlessly yeah I had better rush out and get one...doi they do a quick braker and a quick refueller too?
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« Reply #22 on: 14 December 2014, 10:40:39 am »
So you introduce 'something else to go wrong' take some of the feel of feeding the clutch in on corner exits away and for what? oh yeah a sound that anyone can replicate by changing gear clutchlessly yeah I had better rush out and get one...doi they do a quick braker and a quick refueller too?

suppose it depends on the riding style Mac, maybe for you that's not a requirement but I personally will always be in the gear before the corner.

maybe an age thing too, you know us young uns want all the tech whether we know how to use it or actually need it is another thing, all the gear, no idea ;) but perhaps it's much like the ABS question.
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Re: Quickshifters !!!
« Reply #23 on: 14 December 2014, 11:27:12 am »
Is there a major advantage for having one on a road bike or have I missed something here. :eek

I can see the advantage on a race bike or a track day bike, but for a normal everyday use bike.  :rolleyes

I have ridden a few bikes with them and did not see any major advantage on a normal road going bike other than reducing the cash in my pocket :lol

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« Reply #24 on: 14 December 2014, 12:12:04 pm »
What's the point?