Cam Chain Rattle

[darrsi]

I checked earlier and noted that i had my cam chain replaced 11,000 miles ago, but i'm now getting cam chain rattle again already.
 
I used to get a little bit of rattle for a couple of miles but now it doesn't appear to be going away when warmed up.
 
It's not a terrible sound but it's enough to get my attention, but was wondering why it might be dodgy again with so few miles?
 
It's only really used for commuting so doesn't get thrashed about all the time.
 
Any thoughts appreciated.
 
Note: It was changed at 33,000 miles before, now on 44,000.
 
Cheers, Darrsi.

[His Dudeness]

You know the chain is good. Might just be that the tensioner is about to advance and the noise will go away when it does. I'm convinced all of the older fazers rattle a bit

[reddave101]

cam chain tensioners are a bit dodgy on these. take it off and give it a bit of a clean or just stick a new one on..better still try get hold of a manual one..Beleive it or not mine was rattling really bad and had red on another forum regarding a quick fix with a hammer and the tensioner. It worked for me but dont recommend it but after 7 month still no rattle..

[darrsi]

You know the chain is good. Might just be that the tensioner is about to advance and the noise will go away when it does. I'm convinced all of the older fazers rattle a bit

As in, take it out for a good blast and see if it jumps a notch?

[davidkent]

No wonder I hadn't seen this before posting mine, this was only put up today...

I've tried the whole take for a ride thing and it doesn't work.
My worry is that its going to break while riding lol

[darrsi]

No wonder I hadn't seen this before posting mine, this was only put up today...

I've tried the whole take for a ride thing and it doesn't work.
My worry is that its going to break while riding lol

Split opinion really, some people have just carried on riding regardless and not sorted it.
 
Just so happens i have really sensitive hearing so personally the sound annoys the hell out of me.

[His Dudeness]

You know the chain is good. Might just be that the tensioner is about to advance and the noise will go away when it does. I'm convinced all of the older fazers rattle a bit

As in, take it out for a good blast and see if it jumps a notch?

I'd be reluctant to say that in case something did go wrong it's your bike so it's up to you. If it's not too bad then I'd just carry on riding normally and see if it sorts itself out. Stating the obvious but it all depends on how worn the chain is. If it's worn to the point where the tensioner and guides can't take the slack then reving the knackers off it is probably the worst thing you could do as a sudden change in revs is when the chain is most likely to slip or snap but you know for sure that your chain only has 11k on it. It's unlikely to be worn out at that mileage so it's probably safe enough to try giving it the revs and see if that improves things.

[unfazed]

Depends on the type and quality of chain which was fitted as some will wear faster than others and the wear on the guides, even how the bike is ridden, quality of oil used, all these can effect the chain wear.
See my other post here http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,9372.msg159835/topicseen.html#new

[darrsi]

Depends on the type and quality of chain which was fitted as some will wear faster than others and the wear on the guides, even how the bike is ridden, quality of oil used, all these can effect the chain wear.
See my other post here http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,9372.msg159835/topicseen.html#new

If i remember correctly the chain would've been from Wemoto, the bike is a 90% commuter doing about 11 miles a day in traffic, so very rarely being given a bit of welly, and up until now i've always used Castrol Power oil.

[His Dudeness]

Any luck with this?

[Frosties]

Have you tried putting it in 2nd with the engine and ignition off. Clutch in, roll backwards as fast as you can then let the clutch out quick - sorted mine out. Worth a go.......

[Paul]

I've listened to cam chain rattle noises on the internet, and I reckon my Fazer rattles quite a lot.


I fist noticed the noise at around 60,000 miles (ish), and the bikes now done 76,000.


The noise does seem to have got louder, but so far it hasn't made any noticeable difference to overall performance.


I've never checked the can chain tensioner, but I have turned the engine backwards to enable it to click out a few times.


On another note, and completely unrelated to cam chains, the sprocket carrier bearing collapsed on Sunday, fortunately I found out before it destroyed the sprocket carrier. 


So I reckon anyone with higher mileage Fazers should periodically check the sprocket carrier bearing.

[darrsi]

Have you tried putting it in 2nd with the engine and ignition off. Clutch in, roll backwards as fast as you can then let the clutch out quick - sorted mine out. Worth a go.......

I forgot about that little trick, i'll try give it a go later. 
 

[darrsi]

Any luck with this?

I'm in agony at the moment with a hip injury so a bit incapacitated, there's a few things i want to get done on the bike but sitting down in a comfy chair always feels like the better option at the time.   

[Frosties]

Any luck with this?

I'm in agony at the moment with a hip injury so a bit incapacitated, there's a few things i want to get done on the bike but sitting down in a comfy chair always feels like the better option at the time. 

Well stop falling off the bloody bike then Rodney 

[darrsi]

Have you tried putting it in 2nd with the engine and ignition off. Clutch in, roll backwards as fast as you can then let the clutch out quick - sorted mine out. Worth a go.......

I forgot about that little trick, i'll try give it a go later. 

Didn't work. 

[darrsi]

Can't believe it.


Started the bike outside work tonight, letting it warm up with usual cam chain rattle, then..........silence.


It finally decided to click another notch on the tensioner AT LAST, I waited patiently for so long. 


The silence was almost deafening, I kind of miss the noise now!


And strangely enough it actually sounded like this before, no joking. 


http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/413062/Pug-panting-car-engine-impression

[davidkent]

Perhaps I need to go and start mine then

[darrsi]

Admittedly I stayed off the bike for 10 or 12 weeks during summer because I had a fractured hip, but it started getting noisy from roughly April at a guess?


The silence was music to my ears, and it was literally as if someone switched the noise off, just as I was putting my lid on. 

[Deefer666]

The whole in 2nd gear rolling the bike backwards trick to get the tensioner to advance a notch works better if the plugs are out.

[davidkent]

I've done about 500 miles all year it's been stood now for 2 months at least

Only 2 clicks  left on the tensioner though so advice from here suggests it needs a chain glad yours has gone over though