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Carbtune Virgin
« on: 29 December 2011, 11:36:27 am »
Having read the threads on here and on Pats site, I intend to use my sparkly new Carbtune soon. Never having used one before I seek 'practical' tips from those of you that are more familiar with them.
I intend to do it with the tank proped up rather than removed to the seat.
Do I need to check the TPS before and after the operation?
Are the inner carb's caps really difficult to get to or bloody imposible? Tips welcome here!! (Also replacing the inner carb caps without loss will be welcome.)
Anything else you think I shoud know....
 
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Re: Carbtune Virgin
« Reply #1 on: 29 December 2011, 11:39:47 am »
From memory, you are better off taking the tank off and turning it round to sit where the seat should be or you will never get to the balance screws between the carbs.

Check the TPS before and after and use long nose pliers to take off/put on the caps. It takes a while to do so dont underestimate the time you will need though you may be pleasently suprised and it could only take 10 minutes.
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Re: Carbtune Virgin
« Reply #2 on: 29 December 2011, 11:46:46 am »
To adjust the balance screws I bought a T-handle screwdriver with a very long shaft, the shaft needs to be 'bendy' because the screws are not a straight route and I also found that a headtorch was very handy for seeing the damn things, they are very well hidden.
 Quite the most fiddly of any in-line four I've ever done but very satisfying when you get it right, it feels like a new engine once done properly.

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Re: Carbtune Virgin
« Reply #3 on: 29 December 2011, 12:31:45 pm »
I've had the bike 3 years now and it's not been balanced in my time so I reckon it's due.
Already bought the long screwdriver ready for the task but I don't think it's 'bendy'! :\

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Re: Carbtune Virgin
« Reply #4 on: 29 December 2011, 01:32:48 pm »
rubber tubeing on the shaft of the screwdriver will stop a nasty supprise
head torch as said allready as seeing the bloody screws is a pain and i think the hardest part of the whole job.
i use a long stright screwdriver with out issues but i can see how a bendy one would be better
i also do it with the tank proped up, i have a broom handle cut to length. this dose restrict light so again a good torch is a must.
take your time and its not a hard job, just can be a little frustraiting if you cant find the screws, mine were covered in crap so took me ages.... even now affter doing it 3 times i still have a hard time spoting them. i have heard ppl paint the screws white affter the first time to help from then on. i keep forgetting to do it.

as for the caps, i find them easyer to get to from the sides and have replaced my caps with the carb crossover tube mod. this makes it even easyer.
oh and dont aim for 100% perfection on the carb tune lol i spent 2 hrs the first time i tried to get it perfect and you wont tell the diff from 100% perfect and being a slight variation (cant remember the tolarance thats normal but sure some one will know)

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Re: Carbtune Virgin
« Reply #5 on: 29 December 2011, 04:07:53 pm »
Thanks Ghostbiker....but please enlighten me...what's the carb crossover mod?

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Re: Carbtune Virgin
« Reply #6 on: 29 December 2011, 05:07:13 pm »
http://www.cartestsoftware.com/fz1/carburetorequalizationmanifold.html


I did a simpler version if i remember right, it just involved 2 lengths of pipe linking the 2 outside together and the 2 inside together, useing same lengths of pipe.
but without looking i cant be sure as i did it a few years back.

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Re: Carbtune Virgin
« Reply #7 on: 29 December 2011, 05:10:16 pm »
ahh yes, at the bottom of the page i linked is .....


Bill Jinks now recommends an simpler manifold as an alternative. Use two lengths of hose to connect cylinders 1 to 4 and 2 to 3 separately. The benefits from this setup may be nearly equal to the more complex four-way manifold. It also has the benefit of eliminating all the connections made necessary by the 'T' connectors and the additional potential of air leaks.

this is what i did.

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Re: Carbtune Virgin
« Reply #8 on: 29 December 2011, 05:53:40 pm »
Thank you GB, read the thread now. i assume you haven't a Scottoiler drawing off one of the stubs?

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Re: Carbtune Virgin
« Reply #9 on: 29 December 2011, 06:17:22 pm »
My scottoiler draws from a carb boot, which one i cant say as again i havent had to touch it in a couple of years.
if i remember right it has a brass spiggot drilled into it and the oiler runs off that

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Re: Carbtune Virgin
« Reply #10 on: 29 December 2011, 09:57:24 pm »
 
 
I always refer to Pat's excellent pages...
 
"CARB SYNC"..... here..
 
http://www.cartestsoftware.com/fz1/carburetorsynchronization.html
 
Very useful picturesof the screwdriver angles you need to reach the screws...
 
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Re: Carbtune Virgin
« Reply #11 on: 31 December 2011, 09:12:01 pm »
I was having trouble with my bike when trying to use a carbtune. The bike wouldn't idle and kept cutting out as if there was an air leak when the gauges were connected. I tired turning the idle screw up but that didn't help. I also put duct tape around all of the connections on the gauges and that didn't help. Just seems like there is air getting in somewhere and the bike is leaning out. Once I put the caps back onto the inlets the bike goes back to normal idle. Anyone know whats going on?

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Re: Carbtune Virgin
« Reply #12 on: 01 January 2012, 08:38:47 am »
Whereabouts are you? I'm sure there's a local foccer who would show you how.

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Re: Carbtune Virgin
« Reply #13 on: 04 January 2012, 06:33:50 pm »
ah its no biggy. just thought someone might have had a similar problem