Thanks Dazza im not being lazy but my bike doesn't live at my house, as I said they are on ebay and Wheelywill has some shots of his on his bike. as I previously said I used it once its as new, At the end of the day if it was dodgy it wouldn't always show in photos. Im not about to get a bad name on this site lying to people over a screen and £40 inc p+p is a fair price