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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #25 on: 23 April 2014, 01:59:42 pm »
Update - parcel arrived, complete with loads of loom.  I'm going to have to try to make head/tails of the wiring...
12v for the angel eyes will come off the sidelight.
12v from the battery to the ballasts
Light wiring to trip the relay for lights on/off
High beam wiring to trip the hi/low
 
Shouldnt be too much trouble if i'm honest.  Other than not much room to move in the garage and trying to find some time.  I'll probably wire them up 'off the bike' initially.

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #26 on: 23 April 2014, 06:59:09 pm »
Get on it and get some pics up :)

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #27 on: 23 April 2014, 09:07:25 pm »
Watching with great interest!  :)
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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #28 on: 23 April 2014, 11:09:39 pm »
Fairing off, headlights fitted, tested all 'off bike'
I'm indecided wether to use their loom or not.
Advantage - it runs straight from battery and will use the stock connector just for tripping the relay = good clean power.
Disadvantage - theres a lot of loom! It's well made though.

I think I'll keep their loom in the drawer and just hook up from stock connectors. We'll see, time isn't an issue

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #29 on: 24 April 2014, 11:48:19 am »
These look really good - cannot wait to see them in action


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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #30 on: 24 April 2014, 12:23:04 pm »
Fairing off, headlights fitted, tested all 'off bike'
I'm indecided wether to use their loom or not.
Advantage - it runs straight from battery and will use the stock connector just for tripping the relay = good clean power.
Disadvantage - theres a lot of loom! It's well made though.

I think I'll keep their loom in the drawer and just hook up from stock connectors. We'll see, time isn't an issue

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #31 on: 24 April 2014, 12:24:28 pm »
To be honest mate, with how old the headlight wiring will be now, I'd probably bypass it and go straight to the battery for the best power possible.

That said, I'm pretty certain the draw from HID's is actually lower than the standard headlight bulbs, so you might well be okay.


Or, if time really isn't an issue, rewrap the loom, taking out the old headlight wires?

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #32 on: 24 April 2014, 11:17:21 pm »
Fairing and light unit fitted more or less, still got the bits that the mirrors bolt onto to fit.
Angel's both wired up
I'm going to use the rhs for tripping the hi/lo, for now I've just pushed the wires into the h4 socket, I need to get a couple of h4 male's, 1 for the hrs for hi/lo, and the other for connecting the lhs to the relay.

Late night and a flat battery stops play

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #33 on: 26 April 2014, 10:54:20 am »
Jump started from the car, still only temporarily wired up as swmbo is whining about time I'm spending in the garage... About 1.5hours this week...

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #34 on: 26 April 2014, 10:55:06 am »
Jump started from the car, still only temporarily wired up as swmbo is whining about time I'm spending in the garage... About 1.5hours this week...

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #35 on: 27 April 2014, 02:02:53 pm »
Time actually worked out to not be on my side, with a tube strike and a few issues at home to contend with.

So I'm going to order some 2way amp connectors and sort the wiring out another time, should be a doddle but would rather wait until I have the connectors that I want.

So I've wired thus:
Both halos
Left light dipped beam
Right light dipped and full beam

I'll take some night time shots against a garage door later

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #36 on: 27 April 2014, 02:26:21 pm »
Arrrggghh, I'm blind! Nice work, thought about getting this done on my foxeye

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #37 on: 27 April 2014, 02:31:45 pm »

Arrrggghh, I'm blind! Nice work, thought about getting this done on my foxeye

Me too, looks costly though

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #38 on: 27 April 2014, 03:28:27 pm »
They're complete kit for the z750/z1000 is 215€ that's everything - 2yr warranty, bulbs, ballasts, looms, modified plate etc, so I'd expect it to be a similar ball park. I won't disclose what I paid, but I already had bulbs and ballasts anyway

http://www.retrofitlab.com/retroquick-kits/kawasaki-z1000-z750-mh1-1.html

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #39 on: 27 April 2014, 05:13:32 pm »
How did you get the flash/pass button to work?


I wired mine up so the main beam flipped the solenoid as you did, but this just resulted in a 'click' from the solenoid if the headlights weren't switched on already.


Moot point for me really, as I'm going back to standard.


Stupid EU rules. Auxiliary driving lights, here I come!

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #40 on: 27 April 2014, 05:15:59 pm »
Hmm, I've not tried the flash button... Not too worried about that either - most of my riding is city

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #41 on: 27 April 2014, 05:49:26 pm »
I'd imagine wiring like that to the solenoid is correct, but you'd also need that to feed the light / ballast to make the light illuminate too.
This is all very we'll but it's pretty useless with HIDs anyway as they generally need time to warm up as such anyway, it'll flash briefly even with the lights off but be more effective with the lights on, however generally you should ride with light on for visibility anyway, I guess riding with just the angel eyes on would be appealing because of how they look, through.

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #42 on: 27 April 2014, 07:12:09 pm »
Flash to pass works fine from lights off or on. But as above, it's not great for HID's to flash on and off.

Look at cars that have projectors (where the car has seperate high beam light and low beam light), the high beam is always a halogen.

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #43 on: 27 April 2014, 07:47:39 pm »
Yeah, prime example my bmw has projector xenons, but they don't flash, the halogen main beam flashes

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #44 on: 27 April 2014, 10:07:07 pm »
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lights off, halos only, then lights on
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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #45 on: 28 April 2014, 12:35:10 am »
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lights off, halos only, then lights on


Wow, a Fazer with decent headlamps!!  :lol :lol
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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #46 on: 28 April 2014, 06:58:27 am »
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lights off, halos only, then lights on


Wow, a Fazer with decent headlamps!!  :lol :lol



And you'll have one yourself , soon enough!!  :D

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #47 on: 28 April 2014, 07:38:50 am »
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lights off, halos only, then lights on


Wow, a Fazer with decent headlamps!!  :lol :lol



And you'll have one yourself , soon enough!!  :D


Yep! :D :D :D
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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #48 on: 28 April 2014, 09:40:41 am »
You can see on the vid how the HID's start out very blue then after about 10 seconds of warm up they're much whiter.
Having already gone down the various paths of enabling low beam on the rhs, then upgrading to Osram Nightbreakers, then fitting HID bulbs, and finally going to projectors, i am now happy with the light performance.  I just need to tweak the alignment, maybe up a smidge.
Most of my riding is in London, but, getting there is unlit Essex country roads for about 12 miles.  Not so bad now we're in BST admittedly.
I did take some footage of the lights on said country roads, but i accidentally overwrote it...

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Re: The great/rubbish light debacle...
« Reply #49 on: 28 April 2014, 10:55:42 am »
Where do the projectors stand legally? Sorry I know this has cropped up before but my searching abilities are letting me down.