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Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« on: 09 January 2014, 09:06:05 AM »
The picture below says it all  :'(   (If anyone can't see the pics, it's a half worn PR3, with a large screw just over 1/2 the between the centre line and the edge, so closer to the edge than centre)


Is it suitable for repair?  I've read elsewhere that some places won't repair ZR tyres, but what about a DIY job? 


Also, if DIY, does the tyre have to come off the rim, or can it be done 'from the outside'?  Can anyone recommend any good kits?






« Last Edit: 09 January 2014, 09:07:32 AM by Jamieg285 »

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #1 on: 09 January 2014, 09:10:15 AM »
I would repair that.

I have had good luck in the past with these types of repair kits:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TYRE-PUNCTURE-REPAIR-KIT-TUBELESS-MOTORCYCLE-MOTORBIKE-CAR-VAN-ATV-QUAD-TRIKE-/321119687788?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item4ac439946c

Any closer to the edge though and I would leave it.

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #2 on: 09 January 2014, 09:32:32 AM »
I know some of you guys will repair a puncture but I wouldn't......I'd buy a new tyre for all the safety reasons.....why take the risk especially if you're doing it yourself.

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #3 on: 09 January 2014, 09:38:36 AM »
I've got a PR3 rear which Has two repairs on it no problems mate

But never repair a front always change a front tyre

Also I'd get it done at a garage small fee but peace of mind

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #4 on: 09 January 2014, 10:37:05 AM »
I'd repair it.

I'm quite lucky as I have access to a tyre changing machine so I'd take the tyre off and plug it from the inside.

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #5 on: 09 January 2014, 10:42:14 AM »
I used to have RAC come out and do a roadside repair, but this is considered a temp repair as you really want a "vulcan" repair (I think thats what it is called) as this is where the patch is bonded from the inside of the tyre.


As for doing it or not, I have often got mine repaired and have ridden at ZR required speeds on private roads blah blah.


Once I took a tyre into Essential rubber as I had two repairs already and had just punctured it with a nice screw near to the edge....while sitting there a DR got chatting to me and asked what I was in for etc and explained I needed new boots and why and he laughed at me. He then stood up and pointed at the tyre that had just come off his bike and said "count em"


I made out 14 patches and while I was counting he just added "....and I don't hang about..."


So its up to you. Like wearing leathers a lot of people will scream that you will be killed if you don't wear them, you will also find a bunch of people (like myself who apart from a tiny patch of road rash from a 65mph off in jeans!) will tell you that you can sometimes make your own choice....and thats the key..you need to decide how much of a risk you are willing to take here.


Personally as it is outside of the middle third of the rear and not half worn, its still winter so you will not be leaning over much I would patch it and then consider saving for new boots in the spring :)

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #6 on: 09 January 2014, 11:25:35 AM »
I had a puncture in my rear tyre (PR3 as well) earlier this week too!

I patched it up myself with one of those aforementioned kits and then took it to the garage who did a proper tyre off repair from the inside. These tyres aren't cheap and if it's still got life in them, keep running them. I think it's highly unlikely that a failure of the plug would lead to a blow out or anything disastrous. Of course, each puncture is different and you should ensure that the sidewall was not damaged by being flat/ridden on for too long, but otherwise why not - I know people who've ridden many miles on repaired tyres and even some that who've done trackdays on them.

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #7 on: 09 January 2014, 11:26:27 AM »
If you only commute and dont go over 40 then maybe a repair. Motorway or weekend fun then replace ---- you are lucky you got past the half way worn stage
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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #8 on: 09 January 2014, 11:37:50 AM »
Repaired loads of tyres with the worm type, always left them until they wore out, had a flat coming off the ferry at Portsmouth, repaired and rode 450 miles home at 80mph, once upon a time I used to get tyres removed from bikes by there over cautious owners, repair and fit them to commute on!

Mind you I do work in a tyre shop!

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #9 on: 09 January 2014, 11:44:49 AM »
Repair.
 
I had a new BT 023 fitted to the back last year and it picked up a bit of metal, like a bit of a hacksaw blade in it, took it round to the tyre shop fully expecting a new tyre, he repaired it. 10,000 miles later it's still doing great!

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #10 on: 09 January 2014, 11:45:16 AM »
Forgot to say, those diy kits are generally done from the outside. They are really intended as a temporary repair though to get you home. I can recommend keeping this under your seat:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rema-Tip-Top-Tubeless-Tyre-Puncture-Plug-Repair-Inflatate-Motorcycle-Scooter-Kit-/300977161291?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4613a3044b

I think these are standard equipment on BMWs so they must be pretty decent.

As for a permanent repair - get the tyre professionally repaired and forget about it imo.

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #11 on: 09 January 2014, 11:48:07 AM »
Get it plugged bur go to a tyre fitters, needs to be done from the inside shouldnt cost much.
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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #12 on: 09 January 2014, 11:54:23 AM »
10000 miles from a Bridgestone? Throttle's on the right mate......
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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #13 on: 09 January 2014, 12:23:49 PM »
Amazing to hear the differing opinions and reasons to/not to plug.
You're not going to take the tyre anywhere near it's limit for its 'Z' rating so plug it.
http://www.craftyplugger.com
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Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #14 on: 09 January 2014, 06:49:39 PM »
DO NOT USE BMW KITS THEY R SHIT. sorry Fuzzy but they are.



Another plug for the crafty plugger :-)
« Last Edit: 09 January 2014, 06:51:15 PM by Exupnut »
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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #15 on: 09 January 2014, 06:51:07 PM »
DO NOT USE BMW KITS THEY R SHIT. sorry alex but they are.



Another plug for the crafty plugger :-)


Heh that's alright I don't use the BMW one either :)

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« Reply #16 on: 09 January 2014, 06:52:03 PM »
Sorry alex... Just edited the post. U comin next month?
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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #17 on: 09 January 2014, 06:53:14 PM »
Sorry alex... Just edited the post. U comin next month?

Yeah, is it in the ride out section?

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #18 on: 09 January 2014, 06:54:12 PM »
Not yet. Give it a few weeks. Lookin frwd to seein ur Beemer. Hope its blue. 
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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #19 on: 09 January 2014, 06:54:59 PM »
Not yet. Give it a few weeks. Lookin frwd to seein ur Beemer. Hope its blue.

I'll keep an eye out for the thread, should be able to make it.

Not blue :( Heh

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #20 on: 09 January 2014, 08:27:23 PM »
I've got a PR3 rear which Has two repairs on it no problems mate

But never repair a front always change a front tyre

Also I'd get it done at a garage small fee but peace of mind




Why never repair a front tyre???

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #21 on: 09 January 2014, 08:42:51 PM »
I've done trackdays on tyres which have been repaired by my local shop with a proper plug on the inside. I think they were mushroom shaped and glued to the inside.


Is it suitable for repair?   


That looks a bit close to the edge to me, and the screw looks like it didn't go in at right angles to the tyre so how big will the actual hole be?

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #22 on: 09 January 2014, 09:12:50 PM »
They is a technical reason as to not repairing a front tyre but can't remember what it is but it's something like the pressure on the front tyre is a lot greater that the rear ( not meaning air pressure neither )

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #23 on: 09 January 2014, 09:28:15 PM »
Ive never plugged a tyre so Im only guessing, but that would suggest to me that a tyre that has been repaired isnt up to the same standard as one that hasnt???

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Re: Screw in back tyre - repair or not?
« Reply #24 on: 09 January 2014, 10:05:52 PM »
Ive never plugged a tyre so Im only guessing, but that would suggest to me that a tyre that has been repaired isnt up to the same standard as one that hasnt???

That's why the tyre companies say you shouldn't repair (or use Puncturesafe/ Ultraseal) on Z rated tyres. But unless you're going to be riding at 150mph, I don't see that that's ever going to be an issue.